Ep. 38 How to NOT burn your candle from both ends Interview w/ Broc Higginson

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Hello, hello, and welcome to the Borealis

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experience. I'm so excited to have Broc with me today, he will

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share a very, exceptional story. And yeah, I picked him out

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because he's also very active on Facebook and posts a lot of

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very, like inspirational posts and videos. His latest video

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here that I watched is about the importance to know your limits,

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and to not burn yourself out sometimes when we very ambitious

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and very driven, we forget that Yeah, we have a body to take

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care of we might have a family, we have loved ones, that we have

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to spend time with a want to spend time with. Not only for

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their sake, but for all our own emotional and mental well being.

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So yeah, I'm very, very happy that Brock made the time for us

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to be here today. And I would like to invite him to share a

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little bit of background story of what ignited all these

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beautiful gratitude

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videos and other important messages that you are sharing

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with us right now. So that people yeah, learn about you and

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what is driving you. Welcome to the show.

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Thank you so much. Thanks for having me.

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They said

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it's kind of different getting the opportunity to just speak

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about it. Because usually I'm just reading messages back to

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people that have said something or a comment on. I called them

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the Tuesday tips and my gratitude Wednesday videos that

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I'll post out there, just on Facebook. But the journey

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started just over a year ago. For me, a lot of the messages

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that I come up with only just kind of been in reflection over

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this last year, I've gone through a difficult journey with

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health. And I was definitely as you had mentioned that a lot of

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people kind of burn the candle at both ends and are working

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hard to move forward and perhaps their career or whatever it may

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be that their passions, their passion, maybe. And I love my

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work. And I love what I did to do every day for work, but I

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can't be your only thing and come to that realization over

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time. So if I go back and a little bit and give you a bit of

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my background, I live here in Lethbridge. And I grew up in

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southern Alberta. I went to the University here and a couple

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other universities, colleges have your vehicles out front.

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Unfortunately, not in the mountains like you right now.

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But

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yeah, so I went to university here and then went to university

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ODC at Queen's University and did my masters down in the

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States at Gonzaga, and

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had the opportunity to come back home and teach. And I then

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became a principal fairly quickly

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27 I got my first administrative position as a principal, and,

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and have been doing that since. But I've got the chance to build

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some other businesses in between there and get the chance to

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work. And I guess you would say coach or mentor people that are

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going through those similar experiences of building teams

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out and trying to change school cultures or trying to change

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your business culture. And I've been blessed to be able to do

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that. And so, unfortunately, last year, I was having social

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distancing drinks for some of my buddies. My work is at our cabin

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in British Columbia with her mom doing some painting we had just

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kind of finished up building and

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I wasn't feeling well and

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the guys had left for the evening and I had a really bad

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stomachache. It's maybe I thought maybe I had food

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poisoning or something. And

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so I decided, you know what, I can't sleep I'm not feeling

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well. I'm just gonna shower and get ready and go to work and go

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to work a few hours early. So on my way to the washroom just was

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heading over to the bathroom and I passed out. I had a massive

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what they call a seizure.

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And I passed out in the washroom and when the ladies that work up

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to assistance that take care of me in the school, and

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and when I wasn't there because you stand there the first first

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one of the day

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They knew something was up and then called my emergency

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contacts that are like, thank goodness, we don't have cellular

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coverage. Otherwise it worked too much. And

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they sent my emergency contacts my parents, and what am I, and

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it's over to my house, and they found me in the bathroom. So

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I think I'm pretty lucky. I know, a minute either way. Now I

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might not have made it into the bathroom could have been hurt

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somewhere else. Or another couple of minutes later, I would

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have been in the shower, and I could have drowned. So no, Count

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your blessings that way and just say, you know, I was fortunate

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that happened. And they were able to get me stable here in

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Lethbridge. And I got to thank the docs there for that. And

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then was flown to the ICU unit in foothills by stars. And

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there, they got me stabilized. And they found that add a couple

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of brain tumors from there. So

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because of my seizure, I had to wait quite a while before they

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did take me in for surgery. news about six weeks because I just

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wasn't strong enough to go through this surgery. And let's

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move on brain surgery and had two tumors removed one about the

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size of an orange, and then the other one about the size of a

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walnut. So

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it was a different experience.

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I had no telltale signs of having cancer beforehand.

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Healthy, like you said, I would admit that I was a workaholic.

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But I had no issues with staying healthy and being able to handle

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a 16 hour days.

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Not just for work, but doing things for the community

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fundraising and things like that. But yeah, it definitely

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was a surprise to me, my family. And ever since it's been a

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journey of recovery. And I've had the opportunity from there

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to, like I said, share some tips, I guess you'd say, and in

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my experience going through this and what I've learned and some

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of the lessons I've learned throughout so that's, that's the

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year in a nutshell. And now I'm in a situation where I'm kind of

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in recovery. But as any cancer patient would know, it's more

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like, you just kind of wait month to month to hear what's

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going to be coming next you have an MRI, and then you wait a few

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days and you hear or you sit down in front of zoom or you

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meet with your oncology team. And they tell you, okay, this is

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where we are, this is what we see. And so you're doing this

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for the next month, or we're going to see you I'm hoping in

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my meeting on August 3 that they're going to say you know

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what we did to push up your MRI step every three months now,

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which is hopeful and which means that things are looking good. So

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that's, that's where I hope on that at the end of the month

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here and then beginning of August. So

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just as kind of a basic of what's happened to me over this

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last year. But

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yeah, like you said, a lot of people ask Brock, how do you

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stay positive and upbeat about your situation and I've kind of

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learned to say you know, the things that you're not in

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control of you don't need to worry about in your life.

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The things that you can control. The biggest one I've always

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talked about this with my staff and, and friends and family is

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is your attitude. Nobody else is in charge of that. But yourself.

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You, you know, Charles Darwin was a famous quote, it's like,

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life is 90 or 10% what happens to you 90% on how you react to

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it. And, you know, that's the truth like 10% there's no way I

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would have known that I had cancer, that's 10% of what I'm

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not in control of. But I'm a draw at 90% of everything else

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how I'm going to react to it. So I'm in charge of what I intake

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into my body and eating healthy exercising, keep a positive

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mindset and you're doing my best to stay as positive as I can be

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but also support my family through this experience because

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you know, I'm not the only one going through it. They are going

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through it just as much as I am so

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yeah, that's the basics.

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Some friends come in and say hi, sorry. She's walking by my son

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is coming up. Gonna Say

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hello.

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See you guys

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sorry, they're just down asleep over on the trap last night so

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I'll just come back with a sleeping bag so Oh, that's so

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adore to wind down the river yesterday. So they're pretty

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excited.

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Wow, this is

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yeah man. Thank you so much for for sharing.

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The whole story with us again, and it must have been such an

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intense, like moment to to know that, okay said, My body is not

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healthy, my mind is still, you know functioning I'm, I'm driven

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to continue but all of a sudden you have to take care of your

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body now. And maybe before the diagnosis, you were taking care

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of your body, you were exercising and drinking and

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sleeping enough. But then all of a sudden, you've realized, okay,

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I have to do more, I have to

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be more careful with myself. And I can see that a very ambitious

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person, a person with a big heart who's caring for others

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might feel selfish at times and doing things for yourself. And I

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feel a lot of men are trapped in this caring provider role. And

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then when they do something for themselves, they either have

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their children or their spouse complaining that they want to

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spend more time with them, or their internal beliefs are

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telling them, hey, you're being selfish right now. And you can't

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spend alone time. Or you can go on a hike by yourself.

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How was it for you? Like, do you have dedicated self care time?

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Right now or? You tough? Now, it's definitely more balanced

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than it was while I was working extensively right now I'm off on

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disability, of course, and still in recovery. But I'll agree with

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you in that situation, I'd often feel guilty

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if I tried to do anything specifically for myself.

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Because I was very much caught up in the provider role doing as

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much as I can at this kind of what I call the high earning

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years. For most people during I'm 40. Now, so I'm very busy at

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this wall was very busy at that time trying to

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see expression, make hay while the sun shines do as much as I

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can to provide for my family. And I got caught up in that

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mentality. Definitely. And so my downtime, lend up being, I

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guess, an overlap of social time and work. That makes sense. I

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would, you know, say, I'm going to have a beer or drink or sit

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down or something like that with a friend, but typically was a

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business meeting, if that makes sense. So it was never really

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any personal downtime. I was never really, you know, just

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going for a walk by myself or

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I would not say I'm great at meditating. My wife really works

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on those kinds of things, and has tried to teach me to do

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those things more. And but I was quite reflective, always I would

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journal and reflect. And I would always have a gratitude journal

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with me and just write things down. But my main mind would

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never ever turn off. I was always thinking of what else

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could I do in order to support my family, take care of my

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family, and do those things. And my wife's been really working

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with me over this last year on how to, you know, just realize

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you don't have to always be in that state of mind will be okay,

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you know what it doesn't matter about, you know, if we have no

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big home on the coolies, and a cabin and BC and those types of

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things, just realize that the most important thing is just is

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our family and our kids. And so that's been, like I said

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something that I've had to come to grips with, even though she

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totally understands that I love my job, which I really do, I get

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a great deal of personal satisfaction from it. And also a

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great deal of satisfaction and seeing a difference that I can

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make in that role. So yeah, that's it's a constant, kind of

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battling back and forth. But it has been an adjustment but also

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just saying, okay, there's my cap, and I can only fit so much

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in my cup. I have to make sure that the big rocks of my family

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and my friends and my just work work at school have to fit in

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there first, before I can do any of the other things of, you

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know, supporting others, building real estate teams are

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supporting other companies or helping charity organizations

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even though I get satisfaction from those. They just, there's

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not enough room in the cup. If that makes sense.

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Ah, so I just got to make sure that those those big rocks are

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taken care of first. Yeah, yeah, I love that picture. And it

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helps a lot of people to, to realize, like, Where am I

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putting my energy? And where am I not putting any energy and

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maybe wondering why relationships are falling apart,

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you know, for guys not in your case, but for guys who are

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caught in the provider role again, and then they come home

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and they feel like, oh, they're not really, I don't know, they

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don't fit in into the family anymore, because they are doing

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their own thing now that you're gone and just focusing on making

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money. It's, it's a very tough balance. And

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a lot of people like you who have to go through and tense,

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like situations

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have the possibility to to have that reset, and to see, okay, I

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have to change things. And a lot of people who don't go through

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through pain, keep doing and burn themselves out and then

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face divorce. And, ah, but but both like, I don't want to say I

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wish cancer on a person, but but both situations are just as

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painful. Would you say that this situation brought you closer to

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your spirituality? Like closer to yourself? Again?

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Yeah, you know, what, it's, it's interesting. Um, as I go

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through, and I reflect on, you know, kind of the lessons that

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I've learned well, some of the lessons I learned First off is

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that how much stronger my my family is that I thought they

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were strong My wife is

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where I was thought that I had to be that rock, and I was the

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person that was trying to carry the family through things.

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It's probably the exact opposite. She's She's really the

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one that is, is the leader in the household and the leader of

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our family, and where we're trying to learn how to adjust to

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that now, and learn the balance with that, within that now, as

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far as spirituality and, and reflection on those components.

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I think that there's been a real transition as to what most

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people define is spirituality, if that makes sense.

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I think that if you do any studying or research of what if

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specifically, what people would say is religion has been in, in

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Canada in particular, there's been a very big transition.

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Never has there been a time as long as the research hasn't

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changed lots in the last 10 years, but I'm sure that the

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change has only increased. Never has there been a time where

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fewer people have gone to church?

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And never has there been a time that people have wanted, or

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expressed spirituality ever in Canada, in the last 80, or the

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last, I think it's 65 years, you'd have to talk to a doctor

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maybe at the universities, the premier sociologist of religion

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in the country and North America. But that's the basics

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of his courses, just that fact that people are just yearning

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for, for spirituality. But that doesn't fall within the confines

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of what is typical religion anymore. It's individualized.

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That is, that's just the entire trend in in the world. And

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society today is individualization of everything.

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You know, I want something to be specific to me, I'm looking for

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something that's specific for me.

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Like I said, when I do mentorship or coaching with

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people, they experienced a lot of difficulty with with their

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teams often or their, their organization's because they've

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transitioned to having employees that millennials now that are

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used to things being individualized to them, and then

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feeling that it's a connection to them, in particular. And

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that's very different. When teams and organizations get

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large, whether they're, you know, if they're five or six,

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you can still maintain almost like a family mentality, if that

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makes sense. And you can find that connection point. But if

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you get to a company that becomes let's say, or an

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organization that becomes, you know, 80 people, or 100 people

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or even 1500 people, how do you maintain connection? And how do

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you maintain, like you said that individuality spirituality, that

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family on such a large scale, and so, you know, that's an

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adjustment for

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Everybody, and I've been fortunate to help groups go

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through that. But for me, it's been the exact opposite. How do

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you go back to making sure when you go home that there's that

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connection, and making sure that you're on the same page with,

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with your spouse, with your life partner, whoever it may be, and

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with your children, right, especially if you're not there

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with them enough. And, you know, that's been the realization for

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me over this time is that, you know, time Trumps all things,

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and being there with them, Trumps all things and, and touch

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and field as I'm very much. You know, as the love languages go,

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I'm definitely somebody that, you know, is expresses love

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through touching emotion, that way, I still hold my kids, even

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if they don't want to be held, I don't care, my son, he's eight,

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he said, he'll come give me a hug.

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He's in middle school now. And he has no issue with running

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over with his buddies around and giving me a hug, which is

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awesome. For me, I still feel great that my junior high boys

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are not embarrassed at all to give us down a hug. And know my

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little girl, she's just, you know, it just will sit in your

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lap all day long if she could write. So, you know, I love that

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because it speaks to my love language. And, you know, you got

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to connect that way. But it's quite awkward in the workplace,

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if you're going around, you know, it depends on your work

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situation. But I had zero issues, I will COVID was a

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different experience. But pre COVID, I would sit there and the

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buses would show up at school and every kid would come up and

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give me a hug. And so, you know, at my pocket would be full for

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for an entire day right then and there with, you know, hundreds

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of kids getting off the bus giving you hugs, and you get the

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chance to say goodbye to them, give them high fives and stuff

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like that throughout the day. So it doesn't get much better than

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that. Just imagine if we lived in a place where the Walmart

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greeter you felt good enough with them that you can give them

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a hug every time you went into the store. Right? That's what it

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is, like, for me when I get to go to work. And, you know, I'm

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pretty blessed that way, not only with the kids, because

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they're younger. But even when I was at high school, and at the

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end of the year, the big guys that I would coach and and teach

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and I was that I was principal of would go across the stage at

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grad and pick me up off the ground and big bear hugs in

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there, you know, these big, these big men now that are 18

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that, you know, are bigger than I am just a skinny rat compared

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to them. So yeah, it was just, you know, it's always been

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awesome that way. And

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it's it's a different experience with staff too, though. But I

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consider all of them, you know, somebody I truly care for. And

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they know that and when this experience took place, they've

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been there for me they reached out as much as they could, they

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would come and sit on the front desk like I am right now. And

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socially distance appropriately and, and be there just to spend

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time with me.

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At the start when I would still have seizures, I'm on seizure

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meditation. In fact, it's great here today that I haven't had

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yet and then I just go through and just make sure that I'm

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doing okay because they were just trying to get my meds kind

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of regulated at that time. So yeah, they're just yeah, I'm

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blessed in every way and I feel fortunate so Huh, oh, my

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goodness, that's so precious. What you're sharing here with us

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like the first thing that that I remembered now is that you said

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you can control things that are out of our control. And the

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second or there were many messages in between but what you

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touched on right now with the love languages is such a big eye

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opener for for a lot of men and women out there and it is so

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beautiful. I like to to listen to you and use say okay, this is

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your love language and and that makes me get to know you on a

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deeper level as well. And the same thing, and even more like

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intense it goes when you're in a romantic relationship or when it

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is among friends

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that you start to to read your partner or your friend and how

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they understand love how they receive love, and it's a very

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powerful tool to have in your tool bag.

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It is definitely and you know even even as a leader in any

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role, yeah understanding our how your hierarchy

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Staff. And like you said, your friends and family, how they

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would like you said, what their love languages are how they like

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to receive gratitude.

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You know, there's some staff that love that coffee in the

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morning that you picked up for them, that, that shows that you

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went out of your way to show your appreciation and your

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gratitude for them. Other people just wanted a caring note that

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that's kind of to the point of, like the words of affirmation, I

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saw you working with the kids the other day, and you were

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incredible. And it needs to be specific, it needs to be

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heartfelt. But when you connect with somebody, that way, they

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know how much they care about you and how much you'll go out

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of their way, you'll go out of your way to support them. And

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then they start to take an interest in what your love

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languages, right. And they perhaps they don't use that

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terminology, but they learn on how you like to be lifted up or

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supported. whatever that might be, like you said, so whether

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that be, you know, just quality time, which is my wife's love

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language, I know that. And that's where it was a big

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struggle when I was a workaholic. Because I would work

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until we got home, I would get home late at night, kids have

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already eaten, I would get the chance to, you know, the kids

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kisses and hugs Good night and say good night. And then Steph,

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and I would be usually tired enough to get ready to go to

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bed. Or I'd step into a little bit more work. But like you

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said, I realized that, you know, in order for this relationship

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to work, and that's what I realized over this this past

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year, that I need to make sure that I've carved out that time

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for us to just go for a walk with a dog and talk.

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And that means without the kids. So there's going to be another

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walk with the kids. So that we're all spending time together

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as a family. But yeah, just learning those things.

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And that gets those goes that goes along with some of the

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message that I tried to share on Tuesday tips and gratitude.

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Wednesday's is just, you know, some of the things you got to

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realize that you got to, you got to do before, I just said, you

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get put in a situation like I've been placed. And

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and, yeah, that's the basics of what I do on those Tuesdays. And

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Wednesdays is just going through messages like that. And

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hopefully, you can do those things before you're forced to,

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like I said, or you don't get the opportunity to do them at

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all. Like, it's very easily that I could have just passed away.

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And I left a lot of things undone in my life. So, you know,

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I just be thankful that I get this, like you said the second

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chance to do it. So yeah, yeah. So what I hear is that with the

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love languages, you can intensify it work better your

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relationships, at work, even like you can be a leader, with

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the heart and in learning their language, they will learn your

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language, and the work is going to be even more productive

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people are going to go out of their way in order to reach

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success. And they're going to feel so deeply appreciated. And

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it's just a work environment that we should all thrive for.

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And another thing that I hear here is that you are setting

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yourself apart from the warrior.

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And you join the kings, the men who live in the king energy I

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read such a beautiful article here the other day about

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warriors being you know, the go getters, ambitious men and the

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guys who get things done. And the king is the person who at

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the same time

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cares so deeply about his queen, and about what she needs, the

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way she receives love, and deeply cares about his community

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and lift other people up and is not only concerned about his

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ambition, and to have that awakening yet to see all of a

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sudden, oh my god, like my my wife felt neglected for all

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these years and was nagging and was you know, maybe not your

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wife but some women start Oh, no, no, there's death. There's

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definitely times where we had conversations in which I have to

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be honest Aurora that I was just like, put my head down and be

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like, you're 100% correct.

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I don't know if I will realize that as much as I should have.

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But no, I was definitely that person. That situation where I

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was not given enough time to my family into my

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Life. Yeah. And

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well, definitely learning that lesson in no going forward that

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I need to ensure that there's that balance. But I love that

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analogy. But I really would just put it down to what you have is

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your definition of a leader. Honestly,

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I believe in it. Like I believe in servant leadership, I believe

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that a leader is there to serve their, their employees, their

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family, whoever it may be their friends, is that if you're not

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doing your job, right, as as a leader, then your employees

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can't do their job or right. And I, I believe in that servant

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mentality that I would never ask anybody on my staff to ever do

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anything that I wouldn't do first, or lead by example.

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So I think that, that goes back to just like you said, being

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there for your people showing them that you care, and then it

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becomes reciprocal. And that's way, I hope you never go into an

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environment like and I've said this in, in Tuesday, tips like,

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life is too short not to love what you're doing. So if you're

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going to be spending, essentially a third of what your

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a third of your time working, that's what you know, the

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typical environment is, with eight hours a day sleeping for

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eight hours a day at work, and maybe a few hours a day with

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family, then you better love what you're doing. And you

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better love being around the people that you're with, if not

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quit, honestly quit. And I don't say this often. But I've left

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very successful positions in the past, because the people that I

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should be looking out to, I was not inspired by them. In fact, I

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felt I I don't know if I want to say not disgusted. But I felt

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like they were not the type of person that I aspired to be. And

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so, you know, if I, if I can't look up to the leadership of the

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person that is responsible for me, that is my leader, then I

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don't want to be there. And I'm fortunate here in Lethbridge

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right now that that my superintendent and who's in

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charge of the Lethbridge School District, she is a true warrior

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as you might put it, and she inspires and she works so hard.

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She has such a big heart, she's

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reached out to me many times to see if I need any support. And,

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and I know what's genuine. And those are the kind of people you

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want to go work for. And those are the types of environments

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you want to be in. And, but I've been in other places where like

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you said, you might feel appreciated at times. But you

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also know that that's not genuinely coming from that

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person, they haven't made an investment in you. So, you know,

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I always try to go into any of those situations with an

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investment, knowing that not only not only am I going to do

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everything I can to this person, but I know that that's going to

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come back to me from them as well.

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I'm going to share a tiny story if I can, because I think it

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really pertains to it.

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There's an old teacher and he is a mentor of my wife's actually.

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And he's a teacher out in Tabor. And he was a biology teacher at

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high school. And

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there's a math teacher that was across the hallway. And they

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came up to a student and said, Why did you do so poorly on your

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your math test? The student was quite academic and did very

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well. Why did you do so bad on your math test on on Tuesday?

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Usually you do, you usually perform much better than this.

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Well, I also had a biology test on that day. And I didn't want

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to disappoint Mr. Cleveland. And so they obviously spent more

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time studying and preparing for the exam for Mr. Cleveland

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because they had that emotional connection, that relationship

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with Him. And so goes right back to what you said, like you have

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an environment that's significantly more productive.

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an environment that is has reduced sickness has people that

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are happy, less stress, when there's connection there. But

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that needs to be individualized to each person. And the

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leadership's job is to find what that connection is. And to

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encourage you to create an environment where that will

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thrive. And if you haven't done the job successfully, you're

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gonna have internal strife stress, you're gonna have

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fighting, you're gonna have an unsuccessful company, you're

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gonna have an unsuccessful environment and you're gonna

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have clients

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that aren't going to be happy with you. So for me, my

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experience is going to be parents that are upset children

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that are upset, kids that aren't learning stuff that are dating

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along, you know, in a school that's in disarray, as opposed

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to a school that staff care about each other parents are,

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it's

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exceptionally happy that their kids are, are going to their

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school or going to that school, and they trust you with their

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most prized. I don't want to say possession, but the things that

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they love the very most in this world. That's an honor for

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somebody that allow you to do that. It's like, man, I can't

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think of something better than this, like in life then to be

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trusted enough with us somebody's child. That's, that's

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pretty special. So, and, yeah, like I said, I'm lucky to have

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something inspires me each day to get up and go to work.

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I always joke my, my brother in law, he's in oil and gas, but

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his both his parents were teachers. And he always says,

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Why is it that teachers always say, I'm going to school, but

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I'm not going to work, where he goes, when I say I'm, I'm going,

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I'm going to work. teachers say, I'm going to school. You know

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what, for most of us, we absolutely love what we do.

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And I hope that's the case for anybody in whatever they do. And

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that they're proud of what they do that they stand up and have a

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voice and say, you know, hey, I'm proud of what I do every

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day, and I make a difference. And so, you know, that's why I

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think some people become a workaholic, too, because they

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love what they do. And they put those other things on the

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backburner and they still need to be able to love themselves as

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much as they love the kids that they're making a difference for.

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So yeah. Oh, man, this was such a nice little story that you

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shared here at the end. And, and I, I can see already how

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everybody will understand your message that Yeah, hard driven,

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not ego driven is the future. And this is how we can build

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very strong families and communities and strong, thriving

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businesses. And I'm so endlessly grateful for you to making the

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time today and sharing your light equestrianism and yeah,

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I'm excited to share this episode around with with

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everybody

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will be feeling touched at the heart. Thank you so much for

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being here.

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My pleasure, all the best and can't wait to see it all the