Ep. 35 Dialectic, the art of investigating/discussing the truth of opinions, Stoicism and Astronomy w/ Gabriel de Freitas - The Borealis Experience

Episode 35

Ep. 35 Dialectic, the art of investigating/discussing the truth of opinions, Stoicism and Astronomy w/ Gabriel de Freitas

Published on: 4th April, 2022

today with me Gabriel de Freitas 

You have a choice -always 

We address the very light topics of:

Stoicism 

#Markusaurelius 

#Politics

#Evolution 

#Humanity 

#Meditation 

hello my dear listeners,

maybe it's the same for you and what Gabriel shares opens up your heart and mind .

OR

Maybe this convo is deeply triggering for you. Isn't that good as well ?

whenever we feel triggered : let's make this an opportunity to have a conversation

find out for yourself how you feel about all this

we will be talking about

  • seeing the big picture
  • dialectic ; the art of investigating or discussing the truth of opinions
  • stoicism
  • keeping your cool in stressful times by shifting your perspective
  • what the heck has astronomy anything to. do with mental health

I feel the world can greatly benefit from perspective shifts :)

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Transcript
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Hello, hello, and welcome to mirallas experience.

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I'm so happy to have my friend Gabrielle with me today. We

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connected many years ago at the college and yeah, reconnected

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now because Gabrielle is posting very inspiring stuff. He is

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Seeker for truth, he is a person who calls people out on their

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bullshit. He's the friend you wish you had at your side when

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shit gets, you know, serious because he cuts through and

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allows you to see your blind spots. At least that's what I

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experience when when I'm roaming around on your page. I really

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love how you connect physics and chemistry and spirituality,

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politics, geopolitics.

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I'm really excited to share with my listeners with the world, how

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your brain is approaching certain subjects nowadays that

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some people, you know, feel very triggered and very helpless and

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powerless. And you just give people a beautiful angle on, on

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things on on topics that are Yeah, affecting all of us at the

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moment. So this is why I invited you. Maybe I didn't give you a

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proper explanation on why I connected with you and wanted

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you on this podcast. But here you are. Here we are. Welcome to

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the show. Welcome. Gabriel de Frey tests.

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I'm glad to be here. Thank you.

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All right, where did your journey begin? When it comes to

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expressing yourself like you do today? Were you always a very,

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you know, expressive person? Or did you have a time in your life

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where you were more of an introvert, more of an observer.

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And then there was a day there was a time where you knew you

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cannot hold it back anymore?

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Fill us in?

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Well, I grew up in Brazil, right. And we didn't have much

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like, we weren't poor and although we do really have much

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so like, my education was the only thing I had in contact with

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like, thinking and putting my brain into things to do and

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other things. But like, so like growing up, it was it was it was

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a little bit of

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an motivational in terms of like what I would do and things like

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that, like education and other things because my school was

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like, very dull. It's not like schools here in, in Canada,

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where you have like, a lot more experiences to do like things to

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really learn he was it's more like a industrial approach to

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education. So education to me was always kind of like I hated

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going into school. I totally hate it. And I was super shy to

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growing up. So the whole thing of like, socials inside of

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school is awful for me, you know, I hated it. Like I totally

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hated going to school. I was always the kid that was like, I

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wasn't, I wasn't on the side of the most popular kids and I also

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wasn't with the the other kids. It was just me and one other kid

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that was friends, you know, they always and always spend like

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kind of one or two years in each school that I ever studied in my

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life. I was always moving and going from school to school. So

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I never really like attached too long to someone you know, like

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friends and other things I never had, I didn't have a brother

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growing up. My parents had one kid before I was born but they

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died he died because of meningitis. So I grew up already

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like after my parents lost a kid you know, so they were kind of

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like, attached even though they divorced when when I was like

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four

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and I grew up with my mom and stuff but like, which was even

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poor in terms of finances, you know, money and stuff.

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My My father wasn't very present for the first few years and

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stuff but like it came through later in life, you know, like

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everyone needs to go through a journey of maturity and he had

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one too, you know, made lots of mistakes but like now I have

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another brother that I haven't even met because these inputs

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zeal is six years old.

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And my father is a totally different person to even be more

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present than he has ever been in my life to my brother, right.

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So, like, it was only after, I would say, I was in grade 10 or

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11, that, like I started realizing that pretty much my

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whole life was in a state of kind of depression, the only

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happy moments I had, or moments of like, totally different type

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of experiences. So like, when I was with my father trying to

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like, learn how to build a house, a tree house, you know,

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like, literally grabbing wood and going to the top of the

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tree, nailing it down and trying to build a house. I mean, that

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was like, a totally different experience. So like, it was, I

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didn't understand it back then. But my happiness came from the

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use of my brain like thinking applying to real life

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situations, you know, the more in on autopilot I was living,

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the more depressed I would be. So just waking up every day

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going into school coming back, not seeing the point of it, all

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right, like I hated math, to me, it was completely pointless. I

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study physics now.

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It's a totally different person, like, and so like,

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pretty much after, like, I was, say,

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14 or 15. Like I started realizing, putting,

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rationalizing more, right, like actually putting into words and

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thoughts in my mind. And I started realizing that I needed

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more than the school could offer me. So I was like, grade 11.

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around that.

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So like,

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I have the opportunity of coming to Canada when I was 17. And

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then, in Canada, I had a different experience, to

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information and even the whole language itself, you know,

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learning how to speak English that was already like,

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pleasing to my brain, you know.

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So it was, it was like a process, I didn't really

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understand myself after, like, 20 years, it took 20 years to

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understand that, like, I am thirsty for information, and

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that fulfills me in ways that pretty much nothing else does.

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You know, like, the things that I that used to bother me of

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thinking through complicated issues, was more like being

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bothered by the unknown by the, the thinking of something that

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you hadn't never thought before. But I started realizing that the

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more you think and the more you connect with other information,

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the easier it becomes, you know, and then even for writing, like

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I studied international relations, right? With Leonardo,

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you remember Leo, right? You know, knows my

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We were classmates in international relations and

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International Relations, it was one of the greatest experiences

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in my life to learn how to write, how to write cohesively,

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how to write logical arguments based on literature based on

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information with with an academic logic, and I'm talking

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about 60 pages, papers, you know, like, it's not short

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stuff, it's like a lot of information. And a lot of that

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is based on dialectic. dialectic is like the, the, the logical

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argumentation of, of different points of views without actually

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ever coming to conclusion. Because you can't come to a

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conclusion, on the dialectic, you're going to analyze history,

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and politics and the point of life itself and everything, but

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never actually come to a conclusion. You can talk about

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communism and capitalism, the awesome stuff from one thing,

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the awesome stuff from the other thing, the bad stuff from one

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thing, the bad stuff on the other thing, you can cross

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reference them and put them and against different scenarios, and

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you keep talking and talking and talking. But it never comes to a

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point that you say, therefore, capitalism is the best one.

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Therefore, communism is the best one. You don't have to come to a

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conclusion because you understand that it's so complex

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that there is no conclusion you know, anything could be possible

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depending on enumerables types of like variables, you know, so

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So yeah, like

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I started like having that experience throughout my life

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like reading different stuff I would read from history and all

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Oh, they were all things outside of school. You know, they were

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all things that like I was curious for so like when I first

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can't You can't

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And that was a, kinda like, the first time in my life that I

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read. I think I read like nine books in a one year period when

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I was 17. Right. So it was, it was the first time in my life

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that I was like, I just want to I before that I only had read

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Harry Potter, you know, Harry Potter was the only thing I had

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ever finished reading and I had the pleasure of reading before

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Harry Potter, I would say, I hate reading. I hate reading. I

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don't like reading, I wouldn't have patience for reading,

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right? But like Harry Potter kind of made me like, see, you

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actually like reading the stuff that you want to read? You know,

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so when I came to Canada, I was like, you know, I'm not going to

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read the school stuff. It's boring. I never liked it. It's

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not going to be today that I'm going to start liking it. So I

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went to the public library of Vernon in BC.

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And I just walked in, and I would like, walk around whatever

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book that piqued my interest, I would grab it and see if I

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wanted to read and if I wanted, I would rebuild thing. So I

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started studying about religion, you know, ancient religions,

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like Egypt religions, you know, the whole history of Egypt,

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actually, you know, and I was surprised, you know, for the

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first time in my life, right, like, it was like, why Egypt

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lasted 2000 years. You know, it was a we're here for like, what

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600 You know, after the ocean expansions and ocean

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explorations, you know, oversea exploration, so that was like in

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the 1500s. So rounded up to like, six 600 years. And our

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civilization 600 Years went through World Wars, you know,

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and, and all sorts of all of that stuff. So like, anyway, so

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I started connecting all of that information, you know, like, I

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was already the computer kid. So I already understood a lot about

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technology, like, I grew up, I was a hacker when I was a kid, I

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even got in trouble once with the

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police, you know, because I was hacking websites, and yeah, but

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like, instead of, like, getting in trouble, the police just

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recommended my parents to put me in, like this online course,

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that lasted like actually three years, and would teach us how to

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use our hacking knowledge to make money to like, you know,

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like, actually offer, you know, security services to other

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companies and stuff. So

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I'm like the result of a bunch of seeds that happened in

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multiple moments in my life. And I made sure to grab on and hold

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on to those seeds, you know, that in now in the future,

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right, like in the present, actually, the future from the

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past.

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I'm like, harvesting those seeds, because I made sure to

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protect them kind of thing. But like, I went through a bunch of

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other bad stuff, like I was kind of homeless when I was like,

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seven or seven years old, six, seven.

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Like I was living with my mom, my, my father wasn't answering

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the phone, like he saw, it was like, kind of like a ruse, or we

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were, you know, lying or something. My mom was like to

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draw attention or something. But like, there was this huge rain

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fall in Brazil and stuff. And there was floods everywhere. And

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we lost our house to the floods, the floods, like literally, I

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remember these huge tsunami wave coming down and then like, just

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destroying a little house and we, we were like, leaving on the

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last second car with lady looks like a movie, like an

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apocalyptic movie, you know? And I was a kid, right? Like, it was

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inside of the car, and stuff. So like, it was just me and my mom

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in the car for like, eight months or so. We were like

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literally sleeping in the parking lot of

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pharmacy, because the pharmacy had like an overnight security

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guard. Right? So it was kind of safer.

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By like, it was a month that I didn't know how long it was

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gonna last. It was a most I could have like, to me it was

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like, maybe years you know, like, I didn't know when it was

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gonna last. It's too much anxiety, right? Everyday you

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like, is this the last day every day and then eight months

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through it like it feels like an eternity.

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But I choose to look back and like I wouldn't change anything.

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I wouldn't change anything because all of these things are

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what made me the person that I am today. You know, it's like a

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roller coaster. would make the roller would you make the roller

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coaster flat and like if you make the roller coaster flat,

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it's not a roller coaster anymore and I it's not fun. It's

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there's no point to it. Life is kind of like a roller coaster.

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You know, if you

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changed the up and downs, then it's not life anymore. You know,

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like, even if you look at history and evolution life, you

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know, like the whole thing, like, we are literally the

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product of everything that didn't die.

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That's basically what evolution is, you know, anything that

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didn't die, kept reproducing and passing its genes to next

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generations and next generation, that that's why we're here.

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So

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are we going to be like, Oh, that's not fair, that's, that's

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bad, you know, like, like, who are we to judge the natural

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cycle of life, one day, this planet's gonna blow up in one

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way or another, you know, either by the, the expansion of the of

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the star itself, you know, and completely swollen it up, or by

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internal reactions, but like, the planet itself doesn't last

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forever. You know, not even the state of of sustaining life

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that's going to go way before the planet goes

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by, like, at some point that even the planet itself is going

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to break apart and just become dust again, maybe billions and

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billions of years in the future. But whenever that does happen,

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even more billions and billions and billions of years later, all

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of that dust might just clog up again and make another plan and

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then life starts again. You know, or not, but that's, it's

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really the,

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for all we know, we are made of carbon that was once life in

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another planet. You know?

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So, literally, organic molecules, right? So carbon

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protein, amino acid.

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So like,

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again, I don't want to like jump forward, Blake. Yeah, basically,

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that's me.

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I'm always like, connecting one thing to

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Oh, my dear listeners, this is Gabriel in a nutshell.

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I hope I didn't, you so far exceeded my expectations. And I

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find it so beautiful. Like how easily you put things into words

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and then express yourself so that it's very easily to to

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follow you as well. What I love most is when you explain the was

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a dialect, dialectic, dialectic. Yeah, it's got like this before

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it instead of like dialect. So dialect is more like language

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and dialectic, it's the these argumentation of points without

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ever, like really coming to a conclusion, because it would be

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hyper, hyper, hyper critical to come to a conclusion. Exactly.

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And I feel this is what what everybody has to look at. Right?

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Yes, learn in order to, to stay centered and grounded and yes,

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to stay informed. But to not run around like chickens with a

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chopped off head right. And to, to know that life is so

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extremely complex, and our brain will always want to find

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something to cling on to. But the moment we do that, we see

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separation and feel separation, we see others and us and we see

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something is happening over here, but not over here. And,

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and you help people to see the connectedness and the big

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picture. And I'm sure that I mean, I struggled with

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depression and still have my depressive phases, but to see

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the big picture to see how small we are and how big this universe

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is and how, you know, short our lifespan is it puts you into

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perspective and helps you to to kind of get out of this darkness

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at least it did for me when I listened to you. And then the

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second thing I'd like to comment on is the policemen the the guys

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who caught you hacking, and who saw your potential who saw that

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this boy this youngster has drawn energy and he's using it,

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you know, for for the wrong reasons right now, and we're

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going to channel this energy into something like vandalism.

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That's That's what hacking

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online vandalism. Yeah, it's really just hey, I'm gonna walk

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in here. This is a nice website, but you lost it.

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Just as I can and you fail on protecting. Hahaha.

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Yeah.

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But, but for them to channel your energy into something good.

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Probably saved you

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Life because they could have come and just punished you and

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made you feel like there was never. And then you could have

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either become more depressed or more destructive.

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Yeah, exactly. More criminally No, I'm gonna now start stealing

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money.

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Yeah. And then and then how you went through the homelessness

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and the extreme pains at a very young age and, and to see you,

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you know, Blossom today and being there for others inspiring

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others

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is so incredibly inspiring, you're not a victim to what,

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to the circumstances that you went through you kind of rose

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above and and learn from it and are not now helping others. And

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when it comes to as a victim until I realized, sorry, I was a

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victim until I realized that I had a choice that it's all about

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a choice. And it's kind of something that people get

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offended about, right? Like when you say like, you have to choose

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to be happy late, even you're in depression, whatever it is, the

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problem is when the person in depression because I was this

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person was here is that it's all about choice, they take it to a

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personal side of like, So you mean that I haven't made that

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choice yet. So you mean that it's all my fault. So you meet

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and then they go down in a spiral that's not even that way,

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you know that they are the one interpreting that as an

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offensive thing. Or you're saying that it's your choice is

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because it's your choice to start making something different

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about what you're feeling, you know, like, eat better sleep

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better. They exercise, you have to really force yourself through

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these things, because they are what will break the cycle,

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you're in like, a circle going around, around around. And

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that's the easiest movement, right like to, to break out of

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that movement, you have to spend extra energy, it's kind of like

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getting out getting out of the planet with a with a rocket,

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right going to the moon with a rocket, that's called the

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velocity escape escape velocity. So the escape velocity is

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basically the amount of energy that you need to spend, in order

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to break apart from the pole of the gravity of the earth, you

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know, if you, if you're like one kilometre per hour is lower than

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the speed that's required, you're gonna go up, and then and

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back to your, you know, say, so like, you need to have that

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constant extra speed to break out of that, it's the same

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thing, when you're in a cycling life of depression of things,

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you say that it's because of the Depression, and you have this

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condition, and you hug it out, and you protect it. And you say

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that I can't go and do an exercise because I don't feel

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like living. Guess what you will not, if you if you hope, if

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you're like waiting for some kind of medicine that will take

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in help you maybe that that should, in some cases, that's

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good, you know, like, it will help you as as a as a temporary

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leverage. But you also can't depend on that, like, you have

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to use that leverage of the medicine that you were

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prescribed, and like literally address the roots of the issue

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wild, you have some kind of movement, you know, but you have

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to do something about it, it's not just going to be like,

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something that's going to come and make you feel better, and

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then suddenly, you're going to start working out and do

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everything bla bla bla, like, even if that happens, you're

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just going to be dependent on that medicine because you still

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haven't addressed the issues. You know, the idea is like, you

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take the medicine you take action, but the action is the

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important part, the medicine is just a need, you know, so you

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take the action and you bring the results are after that

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action.

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Slowly that all makes so much sense. And depression feels like

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gravity times 10 You know, like gravity and then times 10 It

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makes you so heavy and so the thermogenic and to bring up the

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energy to break out of it is you're just saying it's not

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possible it's not never going to happen. And don't get me wrong,

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the journey is tough and not beautiful. But there is also

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parts to it that are extremely light and easy and remembering

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who you were as a child and and what truly brings you joy. So it

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really has Yeah, very beautiful sides to it and very tough

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sides. But once you overcome them you are so much stronger

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and so much more. Yeah, resilient and unable to see

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that. Life is incredibly precious and beautiful.

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Very, very well put into words.

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I have a feeling that I want to invite you back

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I got onto this show

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and talk more about do politics, but to just cut a little bit

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into what's happening right now with humanity,

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and

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to show people how you address these circumstances right now,

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what would you say?

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Where, where did we drift off? And where are we at right now?

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And how can we, as a whole, get to a better place?

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Well, one, one way I like to start analyzing these things is

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looking at the entire nature of humanity, you know, and when you

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look at the entire nature of humanity, you have to look at

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the entire history, at least as much as we know about the

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history of humanity. Right? There are things that were only

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recently discovery.

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I forgot to go now the the the name of the city, but

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it's in Turkey. There is this ancient city in Turkey was

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literally as far as we know now, which is recent discovery for

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the last five years, I guess.

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That like that ancient city was the first city of humanity, you

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know, every any lasted literally over 1000 years. And that was

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before the Sumerians before the Egyptians, before the Mayans and

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Aztecs, you know, I'm saying like, so I'm talking about,

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like, 12 16,000 years ago, that's a lot of time. And ever

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since then, we've been in a cycle. There is no drift enough,

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we still in the cycle, even when we go through periods of peace,

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it's all just part of the cycle. You know, like, it's not like,

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Oh, we got peace. And then we'll now we ruined No, it was already

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just, we never broke out of it. You know, we still never broke

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out of it. Because a lacks,

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we still we're still children as a race, you know, as a, as a

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brain, a collective brain. We're still very, very, very immature.

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Oh, but we've been here for 1000s of years. Yeah, but we're

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still immature. You know, like, in many ways, in many, many,

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many, many ways. Like, the whole is the result of the of the sum

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of the parts, right? So like, the entire result of all the

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reality of humans is really the result of individual parts.

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There is nothing divine that comes and dictates the war and

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stuff. No, it's really just humans acting among each other.

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You know?

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So, how are we to expect anything different if we know

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haven't met humans? You know, we know how humans are, we know how

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lost they are in their own existence. Sometimes they even

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live their entire lives being lost, you know, no matter if

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they die at 20. Or if they die at you know, they might still

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live their entire lives and completely lost.

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Lost in the reasons lost in because reality is entirely

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subjective, especially for the human mind. You know, we're

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completely programmable, conditional, indoctrinate

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double.

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If you grab a human and you raise that human inside of a

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white room, their entire lives, and you don't show them

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anything.

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And then when you're like, Lady older, and you walk in with

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this,

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let's even take off the whole experience of someone walking

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in, I'd say that's fine. Because even that that would be like,

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holy shit, who are you? You're an alien. Am I alone? What you

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know, like it would be a hole. But let's say that person walks

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in and shows a drawing of a kid that and says this is a picture

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of outside the human would totally believes because they

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don't have anything to relate to like any other information to

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say like, oh, no, this is real. And this is a drawing, you know?

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Like they It's how our mind works. We can be literally

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educated to believe in any reality possible, even be happy

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within war. If you look at like Vikings, for example. It's a

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perfect example that most people would know. Vikings were

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literally happy for killing people. And that was looked up

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upon you know, I'm saying, but like, it was the reality of back

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then because that's really how one person would sustain the

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other reality right? Like everyone that's part of the

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entire reality was sustaining the reality itself. So it takes

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literally it took hundreds of years to break out of that.

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Did you know of that one culture, but if you analyze the

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whole violence of culture of violence, we're still in 1000s

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of years in cycles, and we just changed our methods and stuff.

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But we're still living in a war, justifying for the same reasons

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justifying because of cultural differences. Religion

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differences, why do you think countries have official

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religions? It's really just a practice that started at the

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beginning of modern organizations of societies in

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order to avoid war, you know, like, they would say, like, No,

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our country is officially Catholic, you know, so, let's

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not fight about that. It's decided, you know, I'm saying

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like, it's, it was literally because before you'd have

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conflicts, right, like people would start like killing each

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other and justifying because now they're not from here, they have

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a different religion, you know, or something like that. So like,

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it was officially determined one, so that the whole

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government and state would like, educate the rest of the

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population on that one religion and kind of like, uniform

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things, right? Unify things. So like, stabilize by making

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everyone in one year under one influence, build more churches

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and whatever. So that's literally just a reason to avoid

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conflict. But conflict keeps happening all the time. It's

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it's unavoidable, you know? And it always comes from these like,

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there's this

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awesome philosopher that I love her Krishna Murthy. I don't know

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how probably pronounce his name is a Indian guy.

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Krishna Murthy. I think it's by like, he, he's like, Oh, the

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Leggett's has probably around the same times as Alan Watts.

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You know, I love ones. Yeah. So Alan Watts, I think it's

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1920 1840, something like that. Krishnamurti is around the same

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time. So you see, you see recordings of him the same way

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as you as you find recordings of Alan Watts, right.

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So like, really old recordings and stuff. And there's this one

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that I really liked that Krishna moody is like having this

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presentation, right? Like,

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and he says, like, there is this

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ever sustaining for 1000s of years, we've been at war every

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year, every there's not a single year that there's no conflicts

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on the planet. Never, ever, ever. We're not like, oh, no,

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Russia and Ukraine. But yeah, like, have you met the rest of

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the planet, you know, always at war. You know, the only

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difference is how much you got to know of it, how much it

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generates an engagement and all other things, right? But like,

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even if you like people say like, oh, where's the world

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going that same place or has always been going? You know?

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In a circle, exactly. You know, and that circle is like, it has

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worked out so far. I mean, we're still alive, right? Yeah. But

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that circle, if we don't break out of it might one day just

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blow itself up, man.

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Like if we just keep going and going and going and going, Oh,

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it's working. It's working and suddenly collapses on itself and

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build up. Because we're not immortals. That's another thing

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that philosophy will teach you right? Like, but before I go to

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that immortals party, which is stoicism, like, so.

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Krishna moody, right. So he says, like,

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throughout history, there's been this collection of things that

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sustain war, differences from religions that don't agree with

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each other cultures that don't agree with each other countries

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that don't agree with each other. There's scientists that

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don't agree with each other, you know,

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and all sorts of the games, you see, and he like, he literally

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goes, like, only a fool can see this, you know, because it's so

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obviously. So what is the the

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supreme outcome of, like, desirable outcome to actually

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start having wars? Is unification. The only way by

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then we're talking about very dangerous things, too, you know,

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because that process is not going to be beautiful. It's not

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going to be a clean process. I mean, look at the world we have

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now. Even in terms of of the cycle, it's pretty

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unprecedented. We've never had the population numbers we had we

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have now throughout history and we spent like, millions of years

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with a very stable population, you know, of humans, because we

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own we, it's that's a whole math thing, right. So like a

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mathematical phenomenon. If you have a certain number of

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populations, the scalability of reproduction.

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especially off humans, which we barely have one or two kids,

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every time we reproduce, right? I mean, if you have twins, that

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would be two, but like, it's not like dogs that like 12 Kids have

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offspring.

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So we reproduce at a scalable rate, like, you can calculate

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the probability of all of that. So if you have like, less than a

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million humans on the entire planet, and that was like,

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around the time, the Vikings and all that stuff, you know, like,

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all the way into, I think, I think we broke, like, building

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over

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I think was like the 1800s, or 1900s was the first time we were

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like, 1.1 billion kind of thing. So it took millions of years for

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us to get you a certain number of population. Up until then, if

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you had like a plague or anything that would like

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designate 200,000 people, 500,000 people, that meant that

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meant literally decimating half of the human life on the planet,

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you know, so like, we were constantly being tested against

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the probabilities of evolution, life, natural selection, and our

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that's those things, you know,

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literally, we only survived because some of us had some

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immunities to some diseases and other things, you know, we

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didn't, we didn't have vaccines and other things. So like, we

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survived it literally, just by nature itself. So

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if you like,

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basically,

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I lose, I lose my, my thoughts sometimes. So like, where was I

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going at?

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I mean, we were talking about evolution, we talked about the

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circle of life, that conflict was always

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part of it.

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That it's the evolution thing, that the amount of people on the

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planet was usually Yeah, very stable. And then they came

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plague. And it diminished. So like, so basically, like, it's

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only expected that some things would escalate in a certain way,

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right, like wars and diseases and all other things. But like,

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after we started getting to a certain numbers of populations,

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because it's unprecedented, that's the thing I was talking

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about. So it's, we're, I mean, we're literally unprecedented

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moments of history right now. Like, it's not like, sure, there

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is a cycle of things, but we are witnessing things that has have

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never happened before, even the whole thing of us as a

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biological life form, right? Like we were, imagine if you

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have a jar at home, and then you put some plants inside, and then

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over like, weeks or something, some like littles nail starts

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growing because there was like a nag of his nail in the plant,

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you know, like, and, like, we're literally like this, we're

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inside of like, this closed environment, which is the

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atmosphere, right? The atmosphere is, is a dome. And

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the flatters isn't gonna like this, it's dome. But like that,

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for tags, the you know, life itself with like, an

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electromagnetic field, it protects from the solar arrays,

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the radioactive solar arrays, right. So like, inside of this

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environment, we grew as this result of, of molecules and

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cart, organic molecules like carbon, and other things

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throughout billions of years. And now we're like, we're like,

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just like this, like, like this flee, you know, we're just like,

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just jumping out of the atmosphere, and we're going to

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another planet. This is like, completely unprecedented in this

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search cycle of things, you know, like, it's a life form,

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completely.

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Taking control of its destiny, in a way I'm saying, like, it's,

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it's completely different than everything that has ever before,

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but at the same time, the cycle is still happening. So it's like

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some of us through the natural selection of that's how history

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has happened throughout life, you know, entirely, some of us

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will still die inside of the cycle, while other members of

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our life form will go into another cycle, you know, so it's

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how it's been always like from going from tribes to countries,

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you know, when we started reaching a certain amount of

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population on the planet, then we started forming countries and

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all that stuff. First was kingdoms, right? Like we had

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kingdoms if you look like an England for example, England,

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the history of England is a nice way. I mean, not only England,

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but also Germany, you know, and Sweden and the entire Nordic

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area, right. So like

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If you look at that area, it's a perfect example of like, imagine

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the whole plan and what's your stat, take, put a notion

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everywhere else, you know, just in history, just imagine, humans

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only existed in that area there. You know, we had like, before

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the Vikings started attacking England, which is completely

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isolated by water, right? Like an island. When before the

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Vikings started attacking England had like, eight kings

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and

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nine kings or something, it was Wessex and a bunch of other I

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can't remember the all the names of the kingdoms. But like, it

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was only after the this external threat of the Vikings, almost

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like an aliens, right, that they started working together. And

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even through conflicts, even against themselves, right? Like

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they didn't want to work together. So but like, one king

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would like, you know, what, if we keep fighting among among

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ourselves, we're going to keep losing to the Vikings and stuff.

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So I know you're not going to stop fighting. So I'm going to

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kill you take over the power. And then as a one unified

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nation, I'm going to fight against the Vikings. But look at

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that, you know, like what, what, what's the result? Now in

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history, we have a country called England, right? And, and

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it's pretty much one unified nation, even all these different

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cultures and all that stuff. But like, it's the natural cycle of

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history, you know, like, we have to have lessons in history in

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order to create other solutions. So why do we know? That it for

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example, the Holocaust, why do we know that it's so bad, and

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that we have to do everything that we can to never happen

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again? It literally because it happened?

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You see my point? If it never happened? How would we know to

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protect ourselves from happening in the future?

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You know, so like, it's life itself, history will always

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continually happening, because we either learn from it to stop

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from happening again. We forget and it will happen again. Yes.

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If we forget, it's like it never happened, you know?

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Oh, that makes total sense. Yeah, even the form of Go ahead.

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Go ahead. Yeah, every, like horrible thing, like put it in

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very simple English that happened in the past, if we

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choose to learn from it, if we went through intense pain, and

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realized, Okay, now we got to change our course, we have to

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change how we think we have to become more aware, more

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sensitive.

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It is for the better. Of course, it was so bad. And we, yeah, we

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don't want to be living through it anymore, or not having people

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suffering, but it's part of life. And we can do everything

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to not make it repeat itself. It makes total sense. Yeah.

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Exactly. And like, even the whole concept of countries that

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we have now, right sovereignty, so the the ability that a

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country has to completely have control over over its own

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reality without suffering external influences. That's

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pretty much what sovereignty is, right? It's my country, I deal

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with my stuff. Even if there is a fire in the Amazon, you can't

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just walk in with your army and help us because we are a

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sovereign country, you know, so like,

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even a smaller country, that pretty much has no defense or

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anything, has the right to be protected because they are

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sovereign, you know, so like, let's say, with a small country

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out, they like Azerbaijan, you know, like if Azerbaijan gets

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attacked by another nation and stuff. We made an agreement like

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a club or literally as as the leaders of the countries that

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existed as a result of kingdoms and wars and a bunch of other

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stuff those countries started existing and after even more

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time before we continue having more conflicts because of the

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conflicts that were already happening like the first one war

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you know, we then got together and you know what, this is not

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sustainable. Like it's not like it used to be before that I have

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like all have this land between us and my little tribe here in

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your little castle over there with like 1000 soldiers and I

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have another 2000 soldiers and then we meet and then we fight

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by fight with like spears and stuff and it's my castle now,

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you know, like, it's not like that anymore. We have a lot of

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people a lot of people and everyone we have a lot of people

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die, and it's a foggy nightmare. So it's, it's just not

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sustainable. Sure there

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his money involved in stuff but like, even with the money

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involved in war, and all in all the interest is of creating war

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because of that. It's still not sustainable. Even those guys

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that want war, also know that too much war is a little

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problematic, you know? So they said, You know what, let's get

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together. And let's sign this document that we made a club,

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it's literally just a club, imagine, like, friends from from

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kindergarten got together, and you're like, every time we have

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a break, we're gonna come to this plastic castle here, and no

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one's gonna come in without a password. You know, I'm saying

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like, that's really what a club is, you know, the UN is a club,

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it's not a official thing, because it's not even sovereign

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on itself. It's just the result of international cooperation.

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You know? So

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because the the majority of the countries, which is 219, I think

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are in the UN. I think the total is 226 22. I don't know, there's

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some countries that are not in the UN, like Taiwan, Taiwan.

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Maybe confusing. But yeah.

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The island outside of China, Taiwan, I think it's I want.

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Yeah, so Taiwan is like a country on itself. But it's not

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part of the UN. So no one no one that's part of the UN, Brazil,

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Canada, Germany, no one recognizes Taiwan as a country,

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you know, no one, because they are not part of the UN. That's

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how it works. If you're part of the UN, everyone else recognizes

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each other as a country, as an official country, and therefore,

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sovereignty exists because they agree on creating sovereignty,

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because they also want sovereignty for themselves.

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Right. So it's like, we were constantly at this huge wave, we

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were constantly this huge wave throughout history, right. And

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then we kind of like, stabilized a little bit more with this with

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this cooperation, because, again, population numbers, we

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started reaching six, 7 billion people, you know, we're almost

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at eight, I think we paid 7.5. Alright, so we're close, getting

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closer to 8 billion people, you know, so like, the more people

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on the planet, the more of these social demands of peace, harmony

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started raising up more wars now are like, before, it was

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completely defined by the leaders of a country. And now

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it's like, if a leader of a country declares war, and then

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another country, there is enough population of civilians to

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completely take

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change the outcome of that war, you know, like, either forced

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the country to pull off the war, or other things, you know, like,

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there is a, an unprecedented weight on that, you know,

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there's a lot more weight on, on the on the power that the

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civilians have, because we are more powerful as people in our

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lives, too. We're not. We're not like the, you know, the farmers

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backing in medieval times that literally had wood, what would

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you do nothing. Now, like even a billionaire like Elon Musk can

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like really change the outcome of certain things, like with the

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Ukraine thing.

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His invention of internet satellites, really made Ukraine

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have a huge advantage over the war, because Russia would attack

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them trying to cut their communications, right, which

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makes strategic movements a lot harder if you don't have

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communication, proper communication. But then the

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whole internet is still working, because it's coming from the

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from, from from satellites, you know, and a lot of satellites,

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so it's not like Russia can just send a missile and destroy it.

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Even though they might be trying, but like, so like, it's

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it's one individual, one individual, it's not a country.

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It's not,

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you know, like, like, no other huge force, religion, people, a

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group of people, no, it's one person, literally one person

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that went through his own journey with his own goals, you

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know, like a useful goal for humanity, which is advancement

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of technology, you know, and other things. And he's using

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that to help and I'm saying, so, like, you have a difference,

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even when it comes to these people, right? You have like

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Elon Musk, and Jeff Bezos. One is all about the money and

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himself and his own ego, right? Like he wants to, like show off

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and spend with futile things. And the other guy is like,

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walking barefoot, lives under the poverty line, like literally

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sleeps in couches and stuff. It's Elon Musk, you know, like,

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the guy doesn't have any money in his bank account. Like he

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literally doesn't liquidate anything. You know?

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all his assets are completely.

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I know, I totally agree. I just thought of Jeff and of course,

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what he represents as a, you know, personality is very

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extreme compared to Elon Musk. But think of the world

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without Amazon, like we would Yeah, exactly. I mean, it's a

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solution. Yeah. Yeah. It's also something that he he is, you

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know, bringing to the world that we use, probably, I don't know,

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every day, every week, every month at least. And

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but he chooses to, to, yeah, present himself differently in

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this maybe not as humble as Elon Musk.

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So I just did make useful things for sure. Exactly. Actually.

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Even even his own like he's also competing against Elon Musk,

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where the whole space thing, right. And that's awesome.

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That's great. You know, like, even Elon Musk loves the whole

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thing. Like he's, like, excited for more competition, because it

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inspires him to be better. Like, oh, they're doing the Exactly.

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Yeah, yeah. Commercial little boy more. Yeah, yeah, it creates

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great things, if you don't let it crush you. And I love in

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everything you say, like I take so much more away from from what

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you say. But what I take away is that the individual is so much

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more powerful than we want to admit at times. And then we feel

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at times and this leads to my next question to you.

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How do you like how do you use media? How do you inform

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yourself? How do you keep the big picture in mind?

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Share with us to help people who are listening who are right now

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feeling Yeah, powerless and desperate, and everything is

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dark, every everything is gonna go down? What can we share with

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with the people who, yeah, feel a little more dark than a couple

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years ago?

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Well, I think everything starts with like, at least for me, I

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approach pretty much every information I have in reality

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itself from my stoic point of view. You know, stoicism is like

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a philosophy, not only influenced by the, the, what's

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his name, whatever story by name of the guy itself, but also

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influenced by Marcus Aurelius, Seneca, you know, in other

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philosophers and stuff, which are the ones I study more there

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is this, I forgot the name of the guy, but like, it's the guy

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that which the name story comes from, you know, but like, That

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guy I never really studied. I've always started mark as a realist

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in Seneca is my main stoic point of view, type of

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influencers, you know.

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And

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basically, what stoicism is always talking about is

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to, it's pointless to worry about the things that you don't

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have control over. You know, and, and, from that point on

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understanding the things that you don't have control over,

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even goes over understanding life itself, death and other

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things, you know, you always have to remind yourself, you're

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mortal, you know, and life is life, you know, it's part of

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there is there's things that you can't control, you have a

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choice, you either live life, understanding those things, or

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you will always be in pain, because of the things that you

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can control. It's a, it starts with that choice, you know, I'm

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saying, identifying those things, what is the reality? And

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what is the things that are inside of that reality that I

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can control?

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History is one of those things, and why were you not sad when

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other moments of history happened? Because you either

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weren't there or because you never really got to know about

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that, you know, so when you get to know about another piece of

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information, you have a choice of what you do with that, you

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have a choice to behave like okay, but if I didn't know this,

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would it be affecting me, and only I'm here in my country,

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things are working, and I hope things work out there, even if

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they get worse before they do, you know, but it is part of the

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getting better, you know, so like, even the whole conflict

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with Russia and example, like the way this is happening,

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it was unavoidable. It will happen it would happen any and

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in the future at any moment, you know, the same way as already

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started happening since years ago. You know,

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the whole conflict in that area is ancient, you know, like

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they're the Ukraine has been invaded since it was a kingdom.

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for 1000s of years, you know, and because of that conflict in

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that area. And for me, during that time in history, Ukraine

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once was part of the Soviet Union. But before the Soviet

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Union, they were independent as well, you know, so they got

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consumed by the Soviet Union, and the Soviet Union took over

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for generations in there. And then the Soviet Union, lost the

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war and then got broken apart.

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Ukraine declared itself independent, and, and separated

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its history, again, from from Russia, but the whole thing is

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happening. And because, again, it hasn't been solved, it has

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always been is pushed forward, and, you know, like, but the

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threat always still exists is the whole ideology. Putin is a

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guy that since he took over, he talks about bringing the Soviet

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Union back in power, you know, like, it's an open discussion

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thing. It's not like, hidden from anyone and stuff, he talks

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about it,

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he talks about it in a way that's not gonna bring him any,

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any international issues. So he talks very softly about it. But

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you know, it's in his mind, it's, you know, it's part of his

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plan. And I would say,

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sylvatic union never really stopped existing, you know, they

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were forced to change their names, they were forced to

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follow under as a specific type of regime, you know, because of

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NATO and not 10, you know, like, the, the international community

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after the war is the conflicts took over, and like, forced them

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to stay in line, but the organization itself, the

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ideology, kept living on for generations, you know, so Putin

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is really still the result of that ideology, it's still the

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same Soviet Union mentality. So it would, the only way this

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would never happen is if one day, and he would die, and then

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some other democratic movement would take over in Russia,

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freedom of market, you know, freedom of living, you know,

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everything else being gay, and all that stuff. And if, like,

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the whole reality of Russia would change politically, but in

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even for that, it meant, it wouldn't be like, when they put

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in with his call for elections, and allow that to happen, you

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know, it would be either by a coup in a good start, so like,

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like a strike a government, like, you know, like, attack,

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right, like they would take over? Or

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are you him just having a health issue itself and dying, and then

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the power being thought of, by other people involved in and you

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know, and hopefully the right one taking over? So like, it's

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not a beautiful process, even when it would be happening would

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be like, Oh, that's nasty, you know, no one would like that. It

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would be like, oh, where's the world going out? You know, but

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it's going at the progress that it has to, you know, so like,

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even this whole conflict itself right now, that's happening,

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it's better to be happening now. I mean, I'm talking about again,

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like, oh, my god, are you saying that it's good? No. Again, we're

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looking at history from like, imagining the planet, you know,

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and like looking for 1000s of years and stuff, it's better to

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happen now, while we still have some kind of organization with

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the whole world and stuff. And then might be the last conflict

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between that that issue with the Russia and Ukraine. Because even

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the movement, this movement, strategically speaking, this

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whole movement that Putin did, is dumb, it's his final, like,

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it's gonna be his own undoing. You know, it's, it's literally

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his downfall. So like, he's going to either keep pushing,

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and then eventually win, and then take over, and then from

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that take over his territory is going to be breaking a bunch of

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international laws agreed by, because once he takes over and

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Ukraine becomes part of Russia, then his territory is too close

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to atomic bombs from the allies, atomic bones, bombs from the

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obtain and all that stuff. And that breaks a bunch of other

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rules and stuff. So he will demand those atomic bombs to be

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removed, you know, and then the Allies will be like, we're not

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going to remove them, you know, another conflict is gonna keep

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happening, because now his territory is too close that and

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he's going to demand those things and stuff. Or he's not

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going to win, which is most likely, there's no way he's

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going to take over Ukraine, because Ukraine is like, right

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now. It's a proxy war, right? No other countries can get involved

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because if they get involved, then it triggers a bunch of

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other international mechanisms of agreements of defense, you

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know, and stuff. So no, no other countries can get involved, but

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they can get involved by proxy, which means they can send

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weapons and technology

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Any information and money to Ukraine, you know, and help

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Ukraine hold off the threat. And so far, Russia is getting their

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ass kicked in. I mean, it's been bad for Ukraine and lots of

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destruction. Yes. But it is not going like Putin had imagined,

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puts in thought and it was in a week we're going to take the

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whole team three days, we're going to take the whole thing.

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No, he's like getting his ass kicked. He would say like,

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there's there's even one video that like three jets of Russian

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three, three Russian jets more advanced even got taken down by

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one jet of, of, of Ukraine, you know. And there's even this

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whole motivation behind it, right? Like the, the Russian

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Russian soldiers, they're being told that Ukraine is getting

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invaded by Nazis and communists, and you know, and there is a

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dictatorship going on and stuff.

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And so like, they're not super motivated, because they, it's

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kind of like you believe because you've been indoctrinated to

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believe in whatever the government tells you. But at the

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same time, you kind of know something's off, you know, so

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you're not really fighting with all your strength. But the

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Ukrainians are fighting with their souls for this, you know,

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so one jet fighter can take on that more advanced all the ones

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because they are at their right, they're feeling like I need to

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defend my country. And the Russians are just like, well, I

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gave I'm following orders, they told me to attack man. But

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they're not really doing with like, I need to go there and

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fight, you know, they're not fighting with their souls. So

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this war is not gonna go like, they will not win, you know,

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it's going to be destructive and stuff. But at some point, he

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will either have to retreat, or he will follow the, to someone

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inside of the government, someone inside of the

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government, even the army itself might be like, You know what,

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this is insane. I'm losing my man, and I'm losing everyone and

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stuff, you know, so like, we just gonna go and take, like,

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either kill him, or literally just take him out of power, put

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him in jail, throw him in some jail, secret jail, that no one's

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in Siberia in and no one's gonna know about it.

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So like, I mean, Napoleon, Napoleon was kind of like that,

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and no one killed Napoleon. Because it's a symbol of power.

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Like, if you kill that guy, that power just explodes everywhere,

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and people will fight for it, it's gonna be nasty. But if you

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just like, put him in a secret place, and no one knows about

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it, and it's like, well, he might come back, and like, I'm

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better just behave a little bit, you know, like, so people kind

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of hold back their, their ambitions a little more, because

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the guy is still alive. So, you know, but anyway, like, it's not

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gonna go too far, you know. And even another option is, he might

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misfire something, and hit another country, and hit another

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population, or even kill the member of another, another

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nation that's inside of Ukraine, and is important, like the

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leader of some Indian political party, you know, that's in

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Ukraine, I don't know anything like that. And by that, causing

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the other countries to get involved, not by proxy by

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directly, and then push him back to live, you know, and then take

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it get inside of Russia and take over like, like, like we did

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with Afghanistan and other countries, you know, like, Well,

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anyway, that might be the last conflict, that might be the

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conflict that we need in order for this to not happen again.

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Yeah. The same way as we had other moments in history. Yeah.

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It all makes sense. What do you say and but it's not in your

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control? No, it's not. It's not in my control. And I love the

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stoic approach

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that you shouldn't get to tangled up with things that you

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have no control over. I have a friend from from Calgary who

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actually flew to Poland and is now on to Ukraine to actively

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help. And I find that so incredibly cool, because he was

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just sick and tired of feeling powerless and Calgary in on his

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little farm there, having all the, you know, everything he

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needed, and decided to go and help and I find that, but

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look how unprecedented that is, right? Because that person is

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just one individual. Imagine 500 years ago, would that person be

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able to have the power to be like, I want to relocate my body

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to the other part of the planet? That would be hard as fuck.

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Like, that's a lot of power. And how does that power come from?

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airplanes, which is an advancement that we had through

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science through engineering.

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Through education in universities, allowing more

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people to have more information and then have a lot more

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engineers working on those things. Right. And but we're in

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the airplanes also used for war. Right after they were invented.

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I mean, they were actually, their advancement were pushed

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because of war. You know, like, before the war, they were just a

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prototype. And then the war came in, they were like, you know,

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that prototype, let's make that thing work better, you know,

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like, and then they just kept like, week after week, releasing

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new new airplanes, new airplanes, new airplanes, new

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airplanes. And then after the war, we were like, oh, let's

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make this nice commercial airplanes to take people to the

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other side of the planet. Yeah, because we learned from the

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lesson how to use the information we had in a better

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way. You know, we still have war airplanes. But you know, but we

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still making progress. Yeah, it's gonna take a lot more time

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for even not have those war ones. Yeah, yeah. And what I

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also loved what you said is, like, I imagined, Russia and and

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Ukraine as sparring partners, you know, martial arts, I love

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martial arts and to picture okay, the one guy has just

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hatred and wants to destroy. And the other guy was, he wants to

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have fun, he wants to conquer his opponent and be good at what

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he does. And the different intention that your sparring

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partners can have, is going to directly affect your outcome.

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I think that's what I understood what you said with it. And it's

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funny that you took it to martial arts because like I take

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a lot of my analysis from martial arts to

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brown belt of Kung Fu, yellow, which is not much in taekwondo,

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one year of Krav Maga when two years of Muay Thai, and I think

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that's a Oh, no, we didn't see come on kickboxing. Yeah, no, I

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don't like fullcontact. I never like to stand there and be like,

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I'm gonna grab you here and I'm gonna grab your leg, like I

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don't like before that I feel like kicking the guy's face. And

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it's my instinct is more like fast contact.

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But in any way, like kung fu is the one I advanced the most

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right? Like, almost got to Black Belt.

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By like, I did, I think like 80 years of kung fu in my life. And

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my master was very philosophical, you know, like,

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we learned a lot about like discipline, and respect, and all

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the things and even how to understand these conflict

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things. Right. I also read a lot of tsutsu, The Art of War, and

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it's kind of one of my favorite books. And it's a very simple

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one, you can literally read the whole thing in one afternoon.

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You know,

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it's very simple. It's just notes, quick notes. You know,

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it's not like complicated taxes or anything.

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By like, if you put that concept of like, the entire thing that

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teaches you with martial arts and all that stuff, like I

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analyze a lot of things like this, in martial arts is

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actually one of the first things to in my life that I realized

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that like, depression and sadness, or any type of things

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that you think you don't have control, because there's that

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too. You might be sure there's things that you don't have

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control, but there's some things that you think you don't have

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control. And you also have to watch out for those things. So

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you don't become like

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a communist, like someone, you know, comfortable zone, right?

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Like, oh, I can't do anything about it, right? That's kind of

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like a nihilism even, you gave up on thinking or doing

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anything, because you think everything you don't have

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control. But there's some things that you do have control your

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mental health, your reality, you know, even if he moves very

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slowly, but you can change your reality, in 10 years period, you

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can become anyone, any one, you know, you might be the person

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that just plays your game all day is overweight, and is bad at

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sports and all that stuff. But if you decide, then in 10 years,

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you will become the guy that runs in full on Adidas suit with

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his golden retriever at 5am in the morning, you know, running

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around that those people that you see in the morning, when

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you're driving to work any like that guy's running ads. I barely

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even know walking up already, you know, like, the guy's

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already running and jogging with his dog and stuff. You can

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become any type of person, any personality, any, you know,

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profile of type of person. You know, when you say like, I'm

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like this, this is my type of person. I'm introvert, I'm Dez.

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And

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I'm lazy, I will go by, you know, you can change the whole

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profile and become an entirely different person. You know, and

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And that's really like through these analysis of martial arts.

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So what's your favorite quote from Bruce Lee? Or any martial

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arts?

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Well, Bruce Lee actually one of the favorite ones I have is the

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one about water, right?

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Yeah, like

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it. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put

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water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle. If you put water

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into a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or

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you can crash. Be water, my friend. Yeah, I remember by

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heart.

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I could be sitting here for a couple more hours and listen to

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you. And I'm pretty sure we didn't disappoint our listeners.

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And I really feel my podcast wouldn't be complete if I didn't

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have you here because

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your words make total sense. I love where your brain goes. And

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I love how you explain things, how you express yourself. But

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your energy, like I wish someday we can put this on YouTube

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is so soothing and so close to saying fatherly brotherly and

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know your you love people, you went through extreme hardship, I

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wish I could hug Gabrielle from when he was seven years old and

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homeless.

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And tell him that he's going to become a wonderful pressures.

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Man, I wouldn't believe you. I wouldn't believe like, even if

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you went back 10 years ago, and told me the person I am today

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and know, everything that I do on a daily basis. I wouldn't. I

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would say like, meth, you're crazy. I hate mathematics. You

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know?

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Like, I wouldn't leave. I've always wanted to be a scientist,

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but like, back then it would be more like computer science, you

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know, but, but even that I kinda like I dropped out in and I went

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to study international relations, because I was too

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afraid of the math. You know, when I was like, taking already

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calculus three hours, am I? Why am I doing this? I don't see the

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point. You know, because I had a better education too. I might

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teach as my professors from the University back in Brazil, they

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were to just memorize this. Why for just do it, you know, they

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didn't really show, they didn't guide information as like, if

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someone like me, were to go back in time and talk to me about

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math, you know, and show me the point behind it, I probably

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would be marvelous, you know, like, it'd be like, Oh, my God,

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really? Oh, that like, I didn't see the point in like,

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how everything has a number, you know, like, everything,

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everything. And there is like these beautiful, pleasing

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coincidences of numbers in nature, you know, like, from

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ratios of sizes of planets to the strength of gravity, if

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gravity was like, a little bit weaker, planets would just

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started flow flying everywhere. If gravity was just a little bit

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stronger planets, which is followed to their stars and

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things would be like, completely chaos all the time. It's there's

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this mathematical balance, it's a number that you can calculate,

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and you find between mass and gravity, you know, the

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attraction is it's a mathematical balance. You know,

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so like, when you understand how numbers apply to these balances,

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it's, it's curious, you want to know more, you want to

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understand more, it's hard. Like, don't get me wrong, I suck

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at it. I'm really bad at math still, you know, but like, I

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study all the time, like, I'm always studying, like, what does

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it really like? And these things, I would not even dream

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of understanding. You know, like, I look at them, and I'm

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like,

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I understand that, you know, but why do I understand them?

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Because I pushed against the pain, you know, of? Yes. And I

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still do. Yeah, every time I'm gonna start studying. I'm like,

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Ah, it's gonna.

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Because, you know, it takes eight hours of studying for you

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to like, oh, oh, I understand this question now.

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But then next, next, next day, when you approach that same

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question, again, it's not eight hours anymore. It's going to be

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another eight hours for a new type of subject, new type of

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calculation. But then it's not going to be any more the next

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time. Yeah, so it's just like, you just have to keep pushing.

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It's kind of like the same thing with meditation. People say, Oh,

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I can do math, because you don't do math. Oh, I can't meditate,

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because you don't meditate. You know, like, if you don't

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meditate, it's not going to be like, Oh, I have the ability of

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sitting down and being like, ah, meditation. You know, if you

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never meditated before, like if you never meditated, even if

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you're a super calm person, I've seen it I've seen

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CNET, Let's meditate. The guy is like super calm. He always

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speaks like this, but never meditated in his own life. And

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then let's sit down and meditate. Sit down and design

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it can't focus can't like, can't like, let go of the body and

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relax. And I'm saying, always like, eating something, shaking

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something, or like checks the phone, you know, like, so a

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person that never meditates will never be able to meditate right

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away. It's about like, creating the habit of every day. And even

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maybe even removing the word like, when you put like, I'm

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going to meditate, then you put this pressure off a method of a

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process. Instead of saying, I'm going to meditate, I'm going to

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take some time to think

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that's basically and I'll just take five minutes, sit down and

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think about things that your mind wants to think, whatever

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thought comes, deal with it process the thought, slow down,

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you know, I mean, we're everyday driving everyday cooking, and

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talking to people and going to work. And like, we wake up at

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night phone, and then go and then do things that are good.

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And then we get to a point where you're like, I'm gonna sleep and

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then repeat everything the next day, right? But like, when do

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you allow yourself to think about what your mind wants to

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think that what I'm feeling? What is it that I'm feeling

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where I am? Where Am I Now, right now? You know?

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Am I okay? Am I happy? You know, like, and sometimes people say,

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like, I'm depressed, I don't know why. Because you haven't

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allowed your mind to find the why, you know, you're always

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running, running, running. So like, it's meditation. It's

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autopilot. Exactly. So like, meditation is literally just

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allowing yourself to sit down for a moment, and

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not have your mind think about anything else, that it doesn't

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have to just think about whatever it wants to think it's

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scary at first. Because sometimes, depending on how much

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you have bottled up, you're gonna have to face a bunch of

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really bad thoughts that on a daily basis, when those thoughts

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come, you just like, and then you do something else, and you

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go work and answer phone or you know, but when you're meditating

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for the first time, you're going to face those thoughts of like,

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the things that are making you anxious, and you don't want to

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deal with it. Sometimes it's even some work that you're

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putting off, or, or you dropped out of university or college,

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and it's way past beyond the time for you to go back. And

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you're like, feeling anxious in your life every day and feeling

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sad. And you don't know why it's because you're resisting to the

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movements that you have to do. Even in physics, you learned

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this, there's not a single thing that is still nothing is still,

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even if you grab, like, any piece of like, this, you it's a

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plastic, right, and you put inside it on top of a table

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completely

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not moving, is it still

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it's moving through space and time, at a velocity so high,

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that it creates matter, that it becomes matter. You know, saying

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like, the planet, the solar system, everything's moving

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through a fabric of reality, you know, the solar system is

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largest. And that's another thing like, right, when you when

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you look at these things, it kind of brings some peace first,

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it's scary, but like after you understand that there's these

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much, much bigger things they knew, you know, much bigger

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forces, and you're just part of this mechanics, you know, then

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you you understand that. It's, it's literally what life is all

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about, you know, so like, the solar system itself. It's not

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just this thing that we keep imagining from school, like

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sitting there and some plants moving around. And that's it,

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you know, no, it's this raging thing that's moving through

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around the galaxy. When dinosaurs existed, when

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dinosaurs existed, it was on the other side of the galaxy,

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literally on the opposite side of the galaxy, in distances that

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we can't even comprehend you human mind, like traveling or

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even seeing at the other side of the galaxy is impossible, you

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know, because all the light that is in the way, you know, all the

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debris and particles and dust and everything, it's impossible

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to see anything. So it's literally millions of light

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years away, you know, and like, meaning the distance that light

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would take to travel in millions of years, you know, you release

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light. Anyway, millions of years, that distance is how far

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the dinosaurs were, you know, like it's on the other side of

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the galaxy. So like, we're moving around that and even the

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galaxy itself is also moving through space, you know, and

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that's

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so

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Like, we're we're literally just existing because our matter is

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moving at such speeds, that it's vibrating into existence. You

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know? So like you're made of atoms, right? These atoms are

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always vibrating. But like, they're literally emptiness,

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your hand is made of 99.999% vacuum, nothingness, literally,

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and why can't you go through objects? Right? Why can't you go

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through your phone or your table or anything if it's 99% vacuum,

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because it's vibrating at such speeds that it exists is in all

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places at the same time. In this reality, if you analyze the

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atom, at an atomic level, at a quantum level, you're going to

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see the atom vibrating, and occupying this huge area by

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vibrating so fast that it's going everywhere, right? But

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like, if you put a bunch of all the other atoms together, and

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they were vibrating like this, they occupy a space so big, that

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when you come to this dimension of our reality, it's matter

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solid matter, you know, but like, imagine, for example,

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perfect example for this ice cube, and liquid water. Why can

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you make them go through each other? Because they're vibrating

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at a different level? You know, but why can't you bake make one

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nice, go through the other ice, because they're vibrating at the

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same level. So they can't go through each other? You know,

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same thing, you can walk through the atmosphere right now there

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is it's not like here, there's air, some people will say,

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there's air here. And some people will say there's nothing

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here, right? Depends on how they see reality. They'll say, oh,

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there's nothing between us. Or they say, oh, there's just air

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between us, I say there's an ocean of gases between us. You

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know, because that's what I see. I see us submerged by a notion

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of gases. And this ocean of gases, you can really weight,

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the weight of the, of that pressure on you. And it's about

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three kilos, every inch or something, say cubic

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centimeters. You know, so like, it's the weight of air itself,

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because you're literally under the water, your body evolved to

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push that against, you know, so everything's like a balance, you

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know, say, like, when you understand these things, you

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know that you're not just existing, you know, you're like,

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literally the manifestation of meta into consciousness.

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You know, like your atoms, your atoms, what a tree is made off,

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what a tree is made off, people would say, it's made of water.

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It's made of light, I've seen people say it's made of light,

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it's a good intuition. Like, I like thinking, photosynthesis,

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it's made of light. No, that would be a lot of energy to make

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matter as dense as wood and leaves out of pure light.

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The tree is made of carbons.

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Basically, it's an eight, nine something percent carbon. And

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then there is like other other materials, other ingredients,

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right, like, like even oxygen itself, carbon monoxide, carbon,

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carbon monoxide, and other things. So like the tree is made

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99% of carbon. And that carbon comes from the soil, the plant

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in itself, basically, you know, and the carbon that comes from

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that also wants came from other trees. Right? That's how we,

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when we want to prepare a farm or something, we're going to

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throw a type of fertilizer that is based on other carbon life

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forms. Like like FISAs, for example, it's basically as

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putting a very rich in, in in carbon and other things and

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other nutrients, soil onto the earth so that the tree can grow

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and take those nutrients out to form itself, right? Same thing

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as you as a human.

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throughout your lifetime, I think it's up until you're like

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20 years old or something. When you're 20 or something. Your

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whole body is already a whole new body. It's not the same body

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that came out of your mom. It's not you know, not even one

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single cell was in there in your mom anymore. Because you lose

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all your cells, and you replenish them with new ones,

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bone cells, skin cells, hay, all that stuff. You replenish all of

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that throughout your life. So imagine if you only eat

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McDonald's your whole life. What are you made of when you're 20

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Ramen of McDonald's?

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Exactly. You made off whatever molecules were inside of that

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food that you ate, you know. So you are what you eat, you know,

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the same way as your mind is what you consume. So you have

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like it there is a

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there's a correlation of all of these things.

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I love what you just said. And I love how you, you describe the

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Yeah, what the tree is made of what we are made of, and that

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our mind is what we consume. And then when you look at the the

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atoms and carbon, everything that is around us, and our

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consciousness, and how we can change our perspective on those

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material things that we think that are lifeless, you know, is

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is a whole whole new topic that I would like you to come back to

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the show and talk about it. But today, unfortunately, we have to

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come to an end, I feel very rude to Yeah, no, no problem. If you

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let me I speak for hours. Yeah, so it's,

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it's beautiful to listen to you. Let me let me just close a

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little bit of that thought of the of the actual thing. So

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like, the carbon that you're made of, and that came from

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trees, and all that stuff like, all of these, what's important

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of understanding is that there's a finite number, you know,

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because there's not a single atom that is created by life. So

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like, if you have a kid, right, we've run out, you grow a kid,

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and then you have that kid and the kid grows, that kid is not

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new carbon, it's really just made off the carbon that you

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consumed throughout your life, because when you have a child,

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it's going to extract some of your own new nutrients. And it's

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also going to extract some of the nutrients that you consume

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while you eat. Right. So you have to have a different diet

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and all that stuff. So like, all of that those carbons, and all

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that stuff also came from other things. And if you keep tracking

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everything, it goes back to stars itself, you know, so like,

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literally, the carbon and all the molecules that you made of,

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they are the result of a

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physic physics process, a chemical process called Fusion,

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right. So it's like, it's an unimaginable amount of energy

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that we're now discovering, we're creating fusion reactors,

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for the first time in history, we're still testing them, but

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they're kind of working, we can't really stabilize the

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energy because it's a lot of energy, it's pretty much

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creating a sun itself, because the sun is a star, and the star

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is the only thing in nature capable of creating that process

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of fusion, you know, so like, every single piece of item that

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you made of came from stars that blew up and then became gases,

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and then formed into planets and fell into the atmosphere, and so

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on, so forth, right? So meaning, there is a finite number of

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things for everything. Even if you had too many humans alive on

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the planet. That means you extracted all of that from the

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soil, and it's in the bodies of people, you know, I'm saying. So

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you, you are extracting from a limited source, you know, carbon

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and molecules and everything, it's limited. It's always, I

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mean, we have huge amounts of it. But there is a limit, you

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know, there is a limit. So if we put like 32 billion people on

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the planet, and those people also have to consume even more,

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and all of this stuff, it's not sustainable. That's why it's

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important for us to keep evolving, going to further

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developments, you know, like, even going to other planets, it

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might be ridiculous, it might sound like, oh, it's gonna be

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for rich people and stuff. No, no, you might even at the

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beginning. Sure, so what? So it was every other type of

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expansion of our life, you know, when we went to other countries,

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and he explored all the continents with the conflicts

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and all that stuff. But, you know, we're learning from all of

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that. And we keep we have to keep going, because it's all

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limited. But the whole universe has a lot more to offer for us.

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So yeah, basically, just remember that everything's

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connected, you know, the universe, everything reality,

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you know, and you're made of the reality itself. Stars blew up.

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And then everything came to came together to then form a life

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form. The first unicellular light life form, right, like one

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so and then that's how it multiplied and then eventually

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became a group of cells that then kept evolving, and then

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started thinking, I'm depressed.

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And I'm saying,

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Yeah, because he forgot the whole connection of life itself.

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Imagine Do you think animals animals, that's an perfect thing

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that came? I have to say that. I know we're extending you a

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little bit but like, the whole thing of analyzing how animals

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perceive reality, animals are always in the present. You know,

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they don't have the complexity of like the complex mind of like

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approaching reality and and suffering by anticipation. You

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You know, suffering by imagination? This might happen

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tomorrow, where's my life going? No, you're just, I had to eat.

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You know, that's the only thing that goes through their mind I

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have to eat. Basically, they're just living in the present,

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right? And they don't, the only way an animal can perceive

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depression is if you torture an animal, you know? So imagine

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this, what what does that say about depression? It means that

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if you're feeling depressed, you're feeling tortured, and

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you're feeling tortured. Why? Because you're not expressing

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your life purpose. You know, like, in the same way, as an

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animal, an animal feels happy, because it's, it's doing what

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it's meant to do, you know, like, it's connected in His own

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purpose of, of his instincts and, and his desires. And he

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goes, after he gets the food, and he feels happy, and he keeps

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going, it doesn't feel sad that he has to sleep under the rain

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on a forest by a tree, you know?

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Because he doesn't desire these other things of like, more

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comfort and all that stuff. He doesn't complicate reality in

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life in itself. So it's a matter of everything's choice. That's

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why it's a choice of how you perceive it. How you go about

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it, you know, it's not like a choice that you feel depressed?

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No, it's a choice of how you perceive what is causing your

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depression and what you do about and, and all of that stuff.

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What a beautiful closing, I'm glad that you brought up the

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animals because I can totally see this being true. And

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we can learn lots from the animals, we can learn lots from

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other people who go through depression and learn from their

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perspectives. And thank you so much for for all your energy

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today. I'm sure you must feel exhausted now. Or even more

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energized than ever.

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more energized more. This is great. This is great. And

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it reminds me you know, yeah, no, this is great. And people

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have to hear this. People have to, you know, sometimes be

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sucked out of water and drink water. Stay hydrated. And yeah,

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I'll have you back here with us. All right. Yeah. To me, it's not

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even like a brush or anything. I'm just here having a

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conversation. So whenever you want to have that call, we can

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have a call.

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Well, this was one of the longest interviews I ever had

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here.

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I hope you got a lot of value out of it. I think my main

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takeaway is that we need to open our minds we need to be willing

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to see another person's perspective and sometimes in

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doing so, and letting go of our grip

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of our opinions. We feel better, we feel more connected.

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Alright, I'm gonna I'm gonna let you go for now. Take good care.

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If you want to connect with Gabriel. I will put all the

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links into the show notes and I'll be out there for you very

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soon again. Bye bye.

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The Borealis Experience
Reconnect to yourself and enjoy life on a deeper level
Hello there,
In this podcast I want to create a space for you where you can recharge your batteries, expand, grow and feel at home with yourself. I will take you on a journey that will get you with ease and effortlessness to a more peaceful state of being. Genuine, raw and transparent - always.
Meditations included
Enjoy it, cause you’re so worth it !
Love Aurora
Also..
A little bit about me
Trust me I’m far from feeling, behaving or being perfect.
Perfection is nothing I’m thriving for yet I can say I’m proud of my path/ life journey.

I'm no longer enslaved to my #depression
I'm no longer a #rapevictim
I no longer struggle with #eatingdisorder
I no longer feel the need to hold on to fear, anger and resentment towards men.
I #create podcast episodes and videos several times a week to support and inspire others even on days I feel poorly.
I push through hard times while being gentle on myself.

I'm able to be consistent without feeling drained for the first time in my life because I found something that brings me joy and excitement and stills my hunger to support people out there.

I try my best to understand people’s harsh opinions that are not in alignment with my values .

I learn every day on how to express myself better in a foreign language

I no longer use being bullied back then in school as an excuse in life to not show up for myself or others.

I ask questions, really annoying questions, in order to experience my environment and to find out what is best for me and my people around me ..
Yes, I still feel triggered in many situations.
Yes, I feel depressed and discouraged at times but I embrace it and don’t let it define me anymore.

Doing all this allows me to meet incredible people along the way.

People who:
- inspire me
- encourage me and ignite my deep compassion

I'm grateful for all of you and I’m so happy that I can learn from you and grow together with you .

We are all together in this beautiful mess called life
Thank you for being here

Lots of love and respect
A.
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Aurora Eggert

Hello there,
Born and raised in Germany under the influence of French culture I got a taste of how people perceive life and situations totally differently depending on how and where they grew up. this ignited my deepest curiosity for human behaviour at a very young age.

Being always more of an introvert and observant child I absorbed a lot of stuff that to this day weigh heavy on my soul but on the bright side I can say that these experiences make me relate so much deeper and better to the people around me.

I understand pain. I know suffering. I know how it feels to feel misunderstood.
People say I have a warm, soothing vibe and I enjoyed many years working as a physiotherapist in Germany.

Today I’m more venturing towards bringing healing through podcasting/ Life coaching and yoga. I also encourage people to spend more time out in nature and have a Yurt set up in our forest where I host regular relaxation classes.

I would like to call myself a perception shifter because this is what helped me on my path of (ongoing) healing - I’d love to offer perception shifting thoughts/views in order to make people feel more real and their life easier and their relationships deeper.

I’m also passionate about bringing awareness to locally grown food to people’s table as I’m certain that feeling empowered and real starts with what you nurture your body with and what you absorb with all senses from your environment on a daily basis .

I live in the Rocky Mountains
Raise a couple chickens Free range for eggs and grow a beautiful vegetable garden with my grandmother, fiance and mother in summer.

Podcasting became my passion because I can reach people all over the world- Give hope, make people feel less lonely and self-empowered. Furthermore the interviews with people from around the world expand my horizon and help me heal my soul.
Bonnie my pitbull is always at my side.
connect with me and share your story on my show .

Love ❤️
A.