Ep. 12 We often times feel like giving up.. What if it's not an option? w/ Robert Riopel

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Hello, hello, and welcome to the Borealis

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experience. I'm your host Aurora, and I'm very excited to

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have Robert Riopel here with me today. He is one of the biggest

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empowerment coaches here in Canada, I would say. And we will

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dig a little deeper when it comes to his story and to find

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out what he had to go through in order to become the leader, hard

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driven leader that he is today. Thank you so much for making the

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time and for being here with us today. Robert, share with us

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where you're coming from, and yeah, how your paths look like?

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Well, you know, I feel so blessed to be here are in and

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being that you're an Albertan just like me, you're gonna

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understand probably, there's that saying redneck. Growing up,

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I was taught that here's the box, don't think outside the

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box. In fact, don't question the box. And when it came to work,

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it was if you are going to work, you support your family, even if

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you hate the job, you do whatever it takes. And so, and

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you work hard, and you stay loyal. And that's what I started

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doing. And by the time I was 21, I had actually worked for three

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different companies and been laid off on all three occasions

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because they were shutting down. And the third company really hit

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me hard because I had been working for that company since

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they opened two and a half years earlier, a factory in Red Deer,

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Alberta. And I had started working in the factory and

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started making my way up to where i is now inside sales. And

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I envision myself being a general manager, eventually in

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my own factory with them working for 40 plus years. So imagine

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the shock when I come into work on a Monday and and the general

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manager calls me in an office goes, oh, I want to let you know

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we're shutting the factory down. You were laid off as of last

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Friday. And I just come from a week holiday. I'm like, you

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couldn't tell me that before I left on holidays. And he's like

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we didn't know. And I and that really, you know, and you know,

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Alberta we go through our oil booms. We go through our oil

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busts, and 1989. We are in the middle of an oil bust and I'm

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going out and looking for that job. I'm still a newlywed, I

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want to take care of my family. And I can't I'm looking for like

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three months, I can't find a job. So I decide to do something

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to take care of my family totally fine. And I started

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delivering pizzas for Domino's Pizza. And when I started doing

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that, because of my work ethic, I started working hard and I

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started actually making more money than I did my real job

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because I was working a lot of hours. And I ended up becoming a

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manager and my wife becomes my assistant. And we go right back

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into our programming working hard. We started working open to

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close seven days a week. And we actually moved from Red Deer to

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Calgary because my franchisee sold a store and Red Deer bought

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two in Calgary. And that's where I wasn't that I was planning on

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becoming manager. But I'm going, huh? Being a manager is more

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secure than being a driver. And there's a guaranteed income. And

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I said, Look, you have two stores now can I manage one of

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all and we talked for a couple hours. And again because of my

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work ethic. Two hours later, he went Yep, you'll move in two

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weeks. And what's interesting, I'd been a driver, I'd done a

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little bit of making pizzas. I said, okay, if I'm leaving in

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two weeks, can I get some experience in store? He goes,

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No, you'll have plenty of time to get experience when you get

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there.

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I got a hold of an aunt and uncle and asked if I could live

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with them until we could find a place to live there and move on.

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And so I did that because I am a whatever it takes kind of

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person. And so I started managing my wife became my

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assistant, we started managing seven days a week open to close.

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And we were doing that for a year and a half when the fear

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came back in again. Because my franchisee comes to us and says

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I want you to know, I'm getting out of Domino's Pizza time

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selling the stores. And we'd watched enough stores in Calgary

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gets sold that we knew as soon as the store sold, the managers

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were let go because the new owner wanted to bring in their

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own team. And my theory was okay, we better start finding

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some of the other franchisees and finding another job. And my

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wife looks at me and she goes, Why would we do that? Why don't

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we just buy the store? And I looked at her I'm like, because

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we don't have any money. That's what we don't buy the store like

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Hello, and Aurora I am very blessed because my wife and I we

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met when we were 13 we started dating, we were 16. We got

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married when we were 19.

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And so we you know, because I was in the box thinker, my wife

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her whole perspective is there is no box, you know, why are we

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being held to something like that? And so we started trying

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to figure out how do you buy a business if you don't have

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money? And we made a lot of mistakes. I will tell you a lot

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of mistakes. It gives an example one gentleman he goes

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Well, I've got investors, and I guarantee I'll find you

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investor, my upfront fee is $1,000. The moment we paid them

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the $1,000 fee, all sudden, magically, none of his investors

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want to invest in us. And it was a non refundable. $1,000, right.

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And every every turn when we got shut down, I wanted to quit. But

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thank goodness, my wife would not let us. Because if you knew

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me when I was younger, I was very limited thinker. There was

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a lot of things I didn't believe in, because I didn't know. And

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if I didn't know, it can't be true, I was very close minded

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that way. And she kept pushing. And I'll openly admit, I would

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not be doing what I do today, if it wasn't for her, because one

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of the gifts she gives me if she's not willing to let me play

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smaller than I am, even if it means kicking me in the ass,

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which she's had to do a number of times.

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Right. And of course, I'm always open to it. I'm always like,

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Good idea, honey.

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We've opened, but she's not willing. And now it's a gift I

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give her as well. And so we made a lot of mistakes. But we

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learned something every time. And after about four months, we

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had the confidence now where we went to our bank, and we

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couldn't get a

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time to sit down with the business manager. Because back

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then, especially here in Alberta, you had to know someone

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who knew someone to talk to a bank business manager. But

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because we had great relationships with our bank

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manager, she'd helped us buy her house. She loved our work ethic.

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We're sitting in our office to one day, and she says how's it

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going with the store? And we're like, it's not going good? And

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she says why not? We said well, we can't find a loan. And she's

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well have you talked to grant the business manager, no tank

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and appointment with him. Now literally and for your audience,

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keep great relationships with your banks. And that don't be

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the customer that the only ever hear from you if there's a

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problem. Because that day she literally stood up, took us by

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the hand and said Come with me. She walked us across the bank

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knocked on his door and said, Grant, this is Robert and

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Roxanne real pill to hard working kids that run a Domino's

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Pizza and they want to buy it. Take care of them. Now, had we

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been able to see him four months earlier, we probably would have

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bombed because we didn't know what to say. I'm a big believer

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Aurora that everything happens for a reason. And I'm gonna ask

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you a question. Have you heard that statement before? That

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everything happens for a reason?

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Do you believe that statement? Oh, yeah. Did you know it's not

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the complete statement? Hmm. Tell me more. Yeah. See, this is

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where people get stuck on this everything else for reason. The

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complete statement is actually everything happened for a

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reason. And that reason is there to serve Me.

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And see when you understand the full statement, it puts you into

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curiosity mode. Yes. The, to me, some of the greatest lessons

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come from the biggest struggles we've gone through. And

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everything I've gone through I know asked that question. And

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it's not like you get the answer right away. Like as an example.

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Have you ever had something happen in a couple years later

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on since like, that's why that happened all that time ago.

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Yeah, because, but when you're in that curiosity mode, if

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you're looking for lesson, then you can take any situation,

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learn something from it, to take your life one step further

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forward. I'm a huge believer in that. So had we seen him four

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months earlier, we would have blown it because we wouldn't

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have known what to say. But because of the struggles we'd

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gone through and learning what to say what not to, we sat down

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and had a conversation. And he ended up not giving us the

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financing for a store. He gave us 100% financing for both the

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stores. My franchisee had for sale. And we became franchisees.

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And I was like, Oh, we've got me now. But unfortunately, we knew

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how to run a Domino's Pizza. But we didn't know how to run a

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business. And there's a huge difference between the two.

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Thank goodness ignorance was bliss, because for the first two

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years, our whole running attitude was if there's money in

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the bank, we're doing okay. But of course we weren't and we

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didn't even know that. But our upbringings both coming from

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poor families. We knew how to make it work, even when times

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are tough. And also a couple years later, when CRA, you know

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Canada Revenue Agency is knocking on the door going,

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hello, you're in business, we haven't seen any tax returns. We

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had to get caught up. We thought we couldn't afford an account.

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And here we are working seven days a week 7080 plus hours a

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week thinking we'll do our own accounting bad mistake. Like

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today in business before I buy or start a business. I have my

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accounting team on the phone with me so we know what we're

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doing. So we have it all set up from the beginning, because a

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great accountant will save you way more money than they ever

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ever cost you. But I didn't know that at 23 Young and Eagle

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right. So when we finally got caught up our accounts actually

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looked at us and they said how did you

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Guy survived the last couple of years. See, we ate a lot of

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pizza at the store. We slept at the store a lot, actually,

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because I like to I'm an entrepreneur at heart. We had

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every restaurant in the area on exchange, I need food tonight,

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would you guys like to exchange pizza for Chinese food or

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chicken or burgers. So we were eating a lot of food at the

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store, not a healthy way to do it. But we made it work. And

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once we got the numbers and start figuring it out, we

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started doing pretty well. But because again, of our

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upbringing, our programming, we started spending more money than

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we're earning.

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And I know you've probably never heard of anybody that's ever

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done that before, right?

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No, no, not at all. I'm like, yeah, and by the time we were

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franchisees, for eight years, we're over $150,000 in debt,

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personally, and going down quickly. And that's actually

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when we were introduced to personal development. And, you

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know, we'd been someone who tried to introduce us years

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earlier, but it was like, I don't need that stuff. I'm good.

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I'm, you know, again, that eagle, but out of necessity, we

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end up going to a 3d training, where they taught us why we were

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in debt, like how we handled our money, why, where it came from

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the understanding, but more importantly, it took taught us

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to take ownership to actually take ownership, we were the ones

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responsible for the debt, quit blaming other people. And that

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lesson there, I've used in other areas of life as well, because

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I've noticed a moment I play the victim, where it's someone

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else's fault, I'm giving all my power away. But if I actually

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just own it, then I can make a correction, I can make an

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adjustment. And so then we also learn some specific skills that

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if we didn't want to have debt, how to get out of it. And I

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won't say I'm brilliant, and that we had it all planned to do

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what we did next, it came from necessity, or $150,000 in debt.

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And the statistic in North America is only 3% of people

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will ever use new information that they receive only 3%. And

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when we left that training, because we were so stressed out

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financially, I've never experienced stress, like

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financial stress before. And it becomes an all consuming, not

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wanting to answer the phone, because you know, it's someone

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trying to collect the debt. And it just it you know, when that's

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running your life, it's it mentally, emotionally,

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spiritually, and physically, it drains me. And so we knew we had

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to take action. And so out of necessity, we decided we're

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going to take what we just learned, put into action, see

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what we can do. And also we were able to go from being over

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$150,000 in debt to actually retired completely financially

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free nine months later at the age of 32.

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And our minds when Wow, that worked. If this much information

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gave us that result, what would more information do and that's

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where we started just learning from as many people as we could,

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I will never quit learning now. i I'm you know, I work on my

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self awareness. I work on what holds me back what works for me,

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I even though I train around the world today, all over the place.

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I'm still a student in as many audiences as I can be in all the

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time. Because I know the moment I think I know it all. I'm done.

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Yep, I'm completely done. And so while we are learning, I found

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my passion. My passion wants to teach. And here's how the dream

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started for me Aurora, it wasn't a huge dream, like, I want to

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travel the world it was if I can help one person, one person, do

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what my wife and I had been able to do go from being in debt to

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financially free, it make it all worthwhile. And especially like

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your listeners listening, that one person you start with is

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sitting in your seat right now. Start with helping you because

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if you don't help you, you can't help others. And so, because

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we've been able to do some stuff I wanted to teach. And for the

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last 18 and a half plus years, I've been blessed now to travel

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around the world several times, and personally taught over half

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a million people how to create financial freedom in their life,

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amongst other things as well. And I'm living my passion. And

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it just I love to be able to one of the greatest feelings for me

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is when a student will find me or see me and they'll go you

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remember when you said this? Here's how it changed my life.

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And I get one arm to arm our whole body goosebumps. So that's

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kind of the back behind story of who I wasn't to get me to where

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I am today. Wow. Thank you so much for sharing all this and I

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feel on one side I learned so much. And on the other side. You

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know how so many people often say Oh yeah, that person is

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successful. They were born into a rich home and they never had

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problems. And this is why they're rich and with with my

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podcast here I'm proving that no

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We all had to struggle really hard, if not for life, to make

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it where we're at right now. And what you kept saying was,

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I remember the word work ethic. Yeah, you said, You guys had

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both great work ethic, you had an awesome partner. So you

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surrounded yourself with, even if it's just one person who

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kicks your butt who cuts through your bullshit, and who keeps

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like pushing forward, and connection with people, like you

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shared with people what your struggle was about with your

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aunt and your uncle in Calgary, and then with the lady at the

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bank, and she open up the big door for you. And then now you

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say you have a whole team of accountants, right next to you,

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right? Like it's only possible to rise as a team and great work

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ethic is, is, yeah, probably a huge must or Plus, when you want

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to reach your goals. Yeah, have to have desire to want to have a

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great life. Yeah. And you have to know you have to know that

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you deserve it, too. I feel so many people say, oh, yeah, but

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I've done mistakes in the past. And I'm not deserving and no,

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like, just push for that desire, and doors will open and mistakes

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will happen. But then new doors will open. And wow, thank you so

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much. Like I feel I'm I'm growing as I'm listening to you.

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I want to ask you now. So you are an empowerment coach today

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and a spiritual leader and so many more things. What is what

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is the number one or maybe two things that you observe? That

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keeps people in that little box like that, that keeps repeating

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all over the world? You see people from not only Canada, but

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all over the world? Do you notice like a red line that

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connects? Well,

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and that's what's interesting is, you know, until I became a

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trainer, I hadn't been outside of North America. Okay, I've

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gone on a Caribbean cruise. So you know, I traveled. But in

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2007, I went to Singapore for the first time. And one of the

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fears was, do people there think the same way as we do? Do they

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have the same things going on in their head the same crap. And it

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only took the first couple of hours of the training, I had

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6000 students in front of me for three days. And in the first two

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hours, we knew they had the same crap going on. And now I've

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experienced that all over the world. So and one of the biggest

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ones that and it's something that still plagues me a little

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bit Aurora, self doubt. Yeah, that's one of the biggest ones

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is Who am I to have this greatness. And as Marianne

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Williamson said, you don't you have greatness in you is? Who

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are you not to be great. And so people won't, but if I'm great,

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that means I'm Eagle I'm arrogant. No is owning your

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greatness with confidence, not arrogance. And so I would say,

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low self esteem and self doubt, are probably the biggest ones I

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see all over the world. And it comes from Why don't think about

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it like this. One of the things reason I wrote the my first

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book, success left a clue is my first step is Dream Big, not

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just a dream, but dream big. Because think about as a child,

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what was possible. Anything and everything was possible. I can

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be a truck driver, one day, a lawyer the next day and

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astronaut the next day, whatever I wanted to be, I could be the

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energy start to grow up. Society comes in to tell you to be

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realistic. You weren't born into the right family. You don't have

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the right education. Really, no one's done that before you and

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Olson these messages come at us. And unfortunately, and I want to

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be clear, it's not out of maliciousness. But

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unfortunately, some of the greatest things that hold us

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back are the messages we hear from our family. And it's not to

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be mean, it's to protect us. They don't want us to get hurt.

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But if you understand again, there's no such thing as a

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failure. It's only feedback. Because when something doesn't

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work, that's where the greatest lessons come from. So if you're

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never willing to try something in fear of failing, then you'll

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never get the lessons. Someone asked me a while ago they on a

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pod cast interview. They said Robert, if you could go back to

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18 year old Robert give yourself a message for the future. What

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would it be? And now what I struggled with, until my answer

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was just keeping you

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see everything I've gone through the good, the bad and the ugly

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is made me who I am today. I wouldn't change any of that.

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In 2009, I went through two back surgeries, I was over living my

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passion. And I wasn't standing properly on stage, only at home

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on average two days a month. So I ended up herniating A disc.

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And I end up getting two back surgeries, where at one point I

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was in bed at home couldn't move for over six weeks before I

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could get the first surgery. And people go, you wouldn't? You'd

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want to go through that, again, the lessons I've learned.

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You talk about humbleness, when someone actually has to wipe

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your ass, because you can't you learn to be humble very quickly.

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And so I look back and I go, No, I don't want to change anything.

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Because I am who I am today, because of

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thing. I've gone through everything. Yeah, yeah. Oh, and

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humbleness is such a huge thing.

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People can sense that right away. Like if you're not being

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humble, if you're being ego driven only, you can be as loud

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as you want, you will push people away, and they will not

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want to follow you.

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And so also think about it, because it goes back to the

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question you ask. Most people who are so arrogant, are

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overcompensating for their own self doubt. Yeah. And they're

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trying to hide it. Yeah. But see, and that's because we've

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been taught vulnerability is weakness. But no to me, and what

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I've experienced, Vall and build strength, and you're willing to

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be vulnerable and ask for help when you need it. Yeah, that's

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huge for a lot of people. Yeah. Yeah, vulnerability, and what

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I've learned the other day, fierce self compassion, to go

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for your dreams, your desires, and to take really good care of

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yourself, and to be vulnerable with other people for them to

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see you and to be able to relate and

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know, this is so precious. Thank you so much. Like, that's been

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so wonderful already. I have I have one more question. I would

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say.

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If if we think about personal development, if we think about

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your personal development, is there things that you still feel

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to this day,

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you want to learn more about like, some people have stage

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fright, and they keep pushing through? You know, some people

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have still intense fears.

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Although they're up there at the top, but they still learn to

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push through it every day. What is it with you that that you are

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still learning to this day? Well, it's exactly what it said

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is, I love to teach others. One of my specialties is to train

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trainers, and I've trained 1000s of trainers around the world.

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And my goal is to help them become more authentic and more

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connected to their audience. reason is because that's the

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journey I'm still on. You know, that old adage that which we

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need to learn the most we teach. Yeah. And so because I want to

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keep learning to be even more connected with my audience, to

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be more authentic to be me, because I believe the greatest

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gift anybody can give this planet is to be themselves.

Unknown: 00:23:19

Yeah. And you know, it was your because the Olympics just

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finished. and Canada, you know, did I think our best showing in

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the Olympics we ever have, you're looking at an aurora,

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you're looking at a world class people pleaser right here. I'm a

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gold medalist and people pleasing gold medalist. And how

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tiring that was. Yeah, because I was trying to be someone

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different to please people. And when I went through, years ago,

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training I went through where it was three days as a student,

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where it kind of to sum it up what a monk would sit in a cave

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for 40 years to do. We went through that same energy in

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three days. And when I went through that, and that's where I

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really realized, I'm me, that's all I can be. And I started to

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own it. My life shifted and changed. Because, you know, the

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amount of energy I wasted on people, like if, if you're

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someone I wanted to like me, and especially if you're successful,

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I'd become like that last little puppy dog, I'd be like,

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please, please like me. And it'd be like, so annoying. People

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would be like, Get away from me, you freak. Because I was over

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trying to please them. And the moment I realized that, here's

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who I am. And either you're gonna like me, or you're not.

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And if you like me, that's awesome. If you don't, that's

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awesome. Because now I don't have to worry about wasting

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energy. And I can actually be me. And as I'm always blown away

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by the people that are attracted to me for who I am not wanting

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to me to be someone else they want and like me for who I am,

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instead of the people that are saying, well, you know if you do

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this or if you

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Do I wasted so much time and energy on that? Yeah. And I'm so

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blown away today to the quality of people, the authentic people

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that come into my life. Because they're like, Robert, I just

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want to know you more. You know, there's something about you. And

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so that's why I tell people, you know, be you just show up and

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watch, who and what gets attracted into your life, when

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you're being yourself. If even if you're a jerk, if you're

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authentically a jerk, be a jerk, because at least the people who

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like you for being a jerk, they're not going to be

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surprised when, and it's a kind of a dirty secret of the

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training industry. It blows me away and frustrates me how many

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times you see someone on the stage. And everybody's like, Oh,

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my God, they're amazing. They're so charismatic. They seem so

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kind. But the moment they step off stage, they turn into an

Unknown: 00:25:48

asshole. And it's like, so my number one rule with my students

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that I trained to be trainers is, and it was a lesson taught

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to me by a mentor. He said, Robert, you can never when you

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start getting to this level, you're gonna meet students all

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over the world, in the strangest places, and never be afraid to

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have to try and figure out who to be in that moment when you

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meet someone. Because if you're yourself on stage, as well as

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off stage, you are as crazy as you are on stage. Yep, that's

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me. Yeah. Do have a terrible sense of humor. Yep, that's me.

Unknown: 00:26:20

Because that's all. So that's been a big one for me. Yeah. Oh,

Unknown: 00:26:24

man, I got so much respect for you. Because to, to hear that

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from someone who is yeah, very confident and teaching others

Unknown: 00:26:33

is? Yeah, it's so refreshing. You know, it gives people hope

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that are not quite yet there yet, and makes us relate to you

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even better on a deeper level. It's, yeah, it's been

Unknown: 00:26:49

incredible, a wonderful to spend time with you.

Unknown: 00:26:54

Can you let us know like Facebook, we can reach you and I

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will make sure to have the book your book in the show notes.

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And then all the links that I find on on pod match.

Unknown: 00:27:08

Is that is that the best way to your and you know, Aurora

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because you were fact that people have taken time to

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listen, what I'd love to do is my book success left a clue. If

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they go to Robert, real pill.com, just my name, Robert,

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real pill.com, they're actually able to download the full

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digital copy of the book as our gift to them for taking their

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time to listen. And I will say it comes with a caveat though.

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And the caveat is, I didn't write this book, too, for

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someone to read it and put it on the shelf and make it shelf

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help. That's not why I wrote it. Step number three in the book is

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taking action. And so I wrote it as an actual manual, where it's

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a workbook and all the way through their action steps. And

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as you do the actions, when you go to read more, it'll say, Did

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you do the last action? If not stop reading right now. Go back

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and do that action before you read further. And so that's the

Unknown: 00:28:03

way I've written the book. And so I'd love for them to be able

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to go and download a copy for themselves. And you know, enjoy

Unknown: 00:28:10

it. Yeah. Oh, that's such a super idea and very cool

Unknown: 00:28:14

approach. Like to make it interactive. And yeah, and with

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exercises. Thank you so much.

Unknown: 00:28:22

Yeah, it's been wonderful to connect with you. And yeah, I

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will make sure to put everything in the show notes, and then we

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share our episode all over the world.

Unknown: 00:28:34

Perfect blessing to be here. Thank you so much.