Ep.6 Reclaim your Masculinity [self-empowerment]

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Hello, hello and welcome to the Borealis

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experience. I'm your host Aurora, and I'm very delighted

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to have Killeen sick candor. With me today. He's a spiritual

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teacher, a man circle facilitator. And yeah, I

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connected with him over Instagram and was so touched and

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inspired by the posts and his work and the pictures that he

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puts out there that I had to contact him and have him on the

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show because I know what he's got to share is going to change

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your life. I've never said that before on my interviews, but I

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know that his work is so powerful and helps men to

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reclaim their masculinity. We talk about warriorship King men

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ship, and women can learn to trust men again, and to embrace

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divine masculinity. Thank you so much for making the time for

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being here with me for connecting with me sharing your

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presence. Welcome to the show. Colleen Sikander. Thank you so

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much. And that was a beautiful intro.

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It makes it very excited to talk right now.

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This is beautiful.

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First, I would like to have you share a little bit about your

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background, how you got interested in in the work that

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you're doing right now because I feel a lot of people who

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do this pressures work, nowaday had to go through some kind of

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pain or suffering previously.

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The more you share about this journey, the better the better.

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People can relate. But you go as deep as feels comfortable for

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you, of course,

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of course.

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And you're absolutely correct that my journey starts with lots

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of pain and suffering, and wanting to go ahead and reclaim

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my life reclaim my masculinity.

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It started with, with me marrying a woman who has lived

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the same fate that saying she was Catholic, I was brought up

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in a Muslim household, and my parents agree with that

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whatsoever. So they ended up disowning me. And I had no

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contact with my parents, my brothers and my extended family.

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And as I married her, I was also coming out of law school. So I

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am a practicing attorney. And this was the recession area

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United States and could not find any work. And she herself is a

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is a doctor with divorce now. And her life had started and she

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was starting her rotations at the hospital. But I was looking

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for work. And I could not I could not find anything, I was

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not making any money whatsoever. And some time goes by and my

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best friend passed away.

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He was the one who was my biggest support in my life

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because I didn't have any family. And it just so happened

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that two years earlier, another friend had passed away at the

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age of 24. And this friend passed that 26. And as time

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progressed, another person passed away. About a year and a

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half later, two years, she ended up committing suicide, all my

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friends that were closest to me. And now I was in a marriage with

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no family with all my best friends, the SES. I was drinking

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every single day, every single day just to numb and cope with

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the world and not want to be part of this world whatsoever.

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And things got so bad that I started being hospitalized for

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depression for suicide attempts. And they ended up in partial

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hospitalization program so that I don't actually get

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hospitalized. But as I was in the partial hospitalization

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program and opened up to them regarding my struggles, they

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deemed me a risk. And since I was deemed a risk, and even

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though I've not given them consent, or really what I said

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was I will go to the hospital, but under my own terms, they

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involuntarily admitted me into the hospital.

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And once I got admitted involuntary in the hospital,

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they diagnosed me with bipolar. That was the first time I ever

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got that diagnosis. I really do not agree with that. And you

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know, maybe we could discuss that later because I believe

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that's a diagnosis that they give to everybody when they

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cannot figure out what is going on. So I know there are many men

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who are listening to this and they

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have been given diagnosis and does not sit well with them. I

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will tell you continue with doing the work that you're

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doing, and maybe not rely on that diagnosis. And we'll talk

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more about that.

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I was in the hospital and look, I am an attorney, my logical

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mind was still there. And I was in a point of danger and wanting

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to get out of the hospital. And I was able to figure out within

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a day and a half how to be released because they had the

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Bill of Rights and everything. And I called the nurse that was

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in charge of the,

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of that floor. And they were like, we can't really keep you

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here because

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they didn't do they didn't follow proper procedures. Time

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goes by my ex wife.

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Still with me, she was like, claim you're not getting any

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better. I have to divorce you. And qualities.

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So my ex wife, she said that she has to divorce me. And I cycled

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into even deeper depression.

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And finally, what enough happening was that because I was

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so depressed, I did lose the job that I finally ended up

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requiring. I was on so many different medicines, I took a

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whole bottle of Wellbutrin, drank all night long.

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And found myself in the hospital for six days in critical care. I

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even had slipped my wrists because I was ready to go I was

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done with life.

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And as I was in the hospital, they forgot to give me my

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medicine.

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Which turns out worked out in my favor because they were giving

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me two different antidepressants, a ADHD

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medication,

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a anti psychotic, and I was already starting to get seizures

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from all the medicines that they were giving me. So they had put

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me on to anti seizure medicines. And as I get out of the

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hospital,

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I realize I'm actually fine and more clear than I've ever been.

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Seizure caused me I ended up having a seizure by taking the

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Wellbutrin caused me to lose a lot of memory and I was fussy,

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but I started to feel emotions again.

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And I ended up in Memphis, in the south of the United States,

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with my parents, and I've taken my dog all the way across

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country to. And remember I told you, they're very conservative,

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they had come back into my life at that point. And they told me

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clean, you cannot have the dog in the house.

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So what I did was I was getting unemployment checks. And I knew

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I had unemployment checks only for six months, I put them into

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a daycare, which was very close to the house. And I use all my

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money for that. And I had six months to go and heal myself.

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So that is where I learned that I need to figure out what these

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diagnoses are.

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I started learning about meditation. I started learning

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about neuro linguistic programming, and all these

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different techniques and I started to bring that into my

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life.

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That's how things started changing.

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Wow.

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I am so touched that you share with us in such depth what

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what your previous life, let's say look like because I feel

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there was a moment where yeah, you started you you push the

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reset button and you were able to start a new and now you're

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out there empowering other men, other women and

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you turn the situation around like 180 degree, right? You were

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in pain you were suffering. Maybe you saw yourself as a

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victim. And now you live in this beautiful energy of

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of a king. I would say I want to say

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this is truly touching and so inspiring. And I have goosebumps

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all over and I'm sweating at the same time like this is crazy.

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Can we talk about your journey now towards

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feeling empowered again and empowering other men? Like did

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you see something like besides your story that is very probably

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driving you and

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helping you to push forward and to find momentum.

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At first, did you notice something in society that told

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you that we need we need to make peace again, men and women need

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to make peace

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And men have to embrace masculinity again.

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There

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in the beginning, absolutely not.

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So my turning point was at the age of 30, I'm 37 years of age,

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I started realizing that I just did not enjoy life whatsoever.

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Everything that I was taught everything that I was told to

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do, it just didn't fit.

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I, the marriage failed, because I was told that I don't love her

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because I did not make money that really destroy me to be

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told that my love is attach to money. And that is a big

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masculine, kind of demand a prerogative of make money for

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your family. That's how you're seen as, as a man. Also, I was

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seen to, I used to be very fit before the marriage. And as time

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went by, I started losing that too. I, you know, my body wasn't

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strong anymore, I had gained a lot of weight. And that was just

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not, you know, I didn't think masculinity was all about

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physical appearance and providing money. So I had to

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explore to explore what love is. But as time started going by I.

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So I wanted to figure out how to heal what was going on with me,

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why am I doing the things that I'm doing.

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And I just did not have any purpose, I did not have any

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spirituality in my life, and no direction, I felt absolutely

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alone.

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I reached out to the Bar Association. They're the ones

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who monitor attorneys in New York State, and ask for help

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from them, and didn't have anything for me.

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I went to turn to the therapists, they sent me to

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psychiatrists, and the over medicated me. I tried to turn to

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my family. And they wanted me to do things their way. And I just

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didn't fall into the religious dogma, you know, pray five times

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a day fast, get married. And of course, the marriage is an

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arranged marriage. Those were just not things that I enjoyed.

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So for me, I, I wanted to know what did what is it that I'm

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doing in this world, I started to realize that

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I need to be driven, I need to have a purpose to be.

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And as I found that purpose, I was like, Wow, I'm here to

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serve. I'm here to be part of community. I'm here to enjoy

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this world. And as I look back, I was like, But why? Why am I

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doing the things that I'm doing? Turns out, my father never gave

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me the tools to live in this world.

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Nobody taught me other than how to make money or go get a

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career, how to interact with women, how to raise children,

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because he was not President, I went to boarding school. So he's

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not the one who raised me.

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Nobody ever nobody ever instilled any type of sense of,

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you know, we are one being we are a community that we need to

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cooperate. All those things were missing. And because I was

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struggling, and I was so alone, I did not want anyone to go

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through that did not want them to feel alone ever again and

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realize that there are other brothers other men out there who

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can step up and help them and guide them. So menstrual cycle

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started was because I almost died. And I don't want anybody

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else to go through that ever again.

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Now, with the circles, we have men of varying ages, 18 years of

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age in their 20s in their 40s, and even in their 50s All of

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them have different issues going on. But one thing that is in

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common is that they're looking for a healthy masculinity.

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You're looking for support, they're looking for a safe place

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to go to where they could express their emotions and not

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be judged. Yeah, absolutely proud of what I have created.

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You can be you can be because your work is going to affect the

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whole globe.

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Because it's so necessary, you know, when 2018 I think it was

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when when the me to movement started. Yeah, I felt relief at

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first, because I was also

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I'm very hurt and physically abused by a man in the past. And

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I thought, yeah, this is good that women come out and talk

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about what happened to them. But afterwards,

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there was a huge,

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like, empty space filled with anger and resentment. Yes. And

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now this pendulum has swung, if you say that in English, way too

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far off, we are, and women are suffering.

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And men are suffering even more. And we are only focusing on what

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we don't want.

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And we don't really know what we want, we are scared of what we

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desire and want, because we still so traumatized, from from

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our past, and from our ancestors and their pain. And

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what I love about your work is that you are not in that space,

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you are in the space of have this forward thinking and

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acknowledging, accepting what has happened and not living in

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denial.

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But I'm digging the potential that is there already and

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helping people see what is inside of themselves already.

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And what they just have to be courageous enough to express and

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show to the world. So you create a safe space for men. And I'm

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sure like, you have saved so many men already from suicide

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and depression and anxiety. And

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it's just, yeah, like, I hope you receive all the recognition

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that you deserve for this work.

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I would like to dive a little deeper into warriorship and King

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manship I feel that you made you made a distinction between those

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two energies?

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Can we talk about it, please? Sure. And yeah, we're going to

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focus on The King and warrior we don't have time to talk on but

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more.

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But I'm gonna go ahead and say a true masculine man is a

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benevolent king. And a benevolent King is a good

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warrior, a positive mission and a great lover.

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Oh, it came is all.

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So there is a thing, consider a distinction between the warrior

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and the king. Because a king is a warrior, but a warrior is not

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necessarily a king. Yeah.

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One big thing that I would like to say is that the warrior is

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necessary. We have to develop these traits, the lover, the

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magician and the warrior before we can enter our kingdom, become

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the kings of our kingdom. And because of meaty movement,

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because of the violence that men have committed, because of

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Honestly, all the violence is because of men.

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You know, they're the ones who are doing it's not the women who

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they're the victims in this. So good men are turning away from

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their restraint. They're turning away from physical activity, or

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they don't want to seem to be seen as aggressors. But the fact

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of the matter is the Warriors necessary, who is going to go

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ahead and protect the kind, then the meat and the week, who's

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going to take care of, you know, the children, the animals, this

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planet, if we're going to go ahead and give up our

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masculinity and not enter our entire warriorship we are not

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going to break the cycle. You know, in fact, I am saying is to

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come into your warrior shift, to be that warrior so we can

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protect the people who need protection. And if you do it the

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right way, if you do it it with conscious thought and kindness,

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that warrior is there to defend not to destroy as a last resort,

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and the warrior is also that part of you that is disciplined,

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that has purpose and is driven is going to go far and exceed.

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We need that in men.

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Now, the King who is a warrior,

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he loves his community.

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He operates in such a way that the ego, the his own desires are

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secondary to a higher purpose. You can go ahead and what have

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your own desire your own ego and your wants and your needs. But

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what you're trying to do is act in such a way that your whole

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community benefits. You know it

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To find also to be a king, you do not have to be do community

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work, you can be a king within your small family in it, take

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care of your spouse, take care of your children, do not abuse

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them, love them, raise them properly. If that's all that a

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king has, and that King energy is so beautiful combined with

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the warrior, it's safe, it creates in a beautiful container

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for the feminine to come into. And I would also want to remind

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the men who are listening to this, we have feminine qualities

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to colleagues that we want to express and enjoy creativity.

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Kindness, we want to receive, we consider these feminine

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qualities, but the fact of the matter is that we are both

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masculine and feminine. And when you have a great masculine

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container, it is very easy for the feminine to come out. And it

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does not take away your masculinity whatsoever.

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This is

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a very powerful words and very beautifully described. And yeah,

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easy to understand. And at the same time when I listened to

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you, I feel Yeah, women have to step up. as well. A lot of women

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are ego driven, and think they have to reject their femininity

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now in order to be able to compete with men and to not be

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suppressed and oppressed by men anymore.

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I visited a women's cycle here in southern Alberta a couple

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years ago. And I was shocked to hear that yeah, it was all about

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self massage and meditation and passing like bathing in

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essential oils. And at the end it was just about how angry they

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all were about men and all the all the you know, resentment

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feelings came up. And then the soaker was done and we all left

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and, and I was like, Well, this is not like, this is not what I

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saw what it's about. at Burning Man, though, I went to a women's

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circle and at the same time, there was a man circle right in

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the tent next to it and it was like, very primal and loud. And,

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and with the women, it was very sensual and beautiful, and how

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to receive the man and not take from the man and

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it was so beautiful. But it made me realize that there's lots of

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different kinds of views when it comes to those healing circles,

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right and, and we have to pick and choose and we have to be

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aware that it has to be a step towards each other and not

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making the gap that is there already even bigger. Because

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this is not going to serve us we need each other we have to come

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back together and I feel you and I we see the Great Divide and

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we're doing everything to to melt back together.

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The time is running like usually when it's when it's a beautiful

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engaging interview. I have one last question for you.

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If we have listeners out there, it might be men by women who

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have brothers or

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a partner.

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What would you recommend is

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the couple steps that they could take in order to make peace with

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themselves anymore in order to see Yeah, aggression is not

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masculinity it is not. It has nothing to do with how you look

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and with how aggressive you can be.

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What would you say are like baby steps and then last point how

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can people contact you reach out to you? And how can they find

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man circles that you would recommend here and North

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America?

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A very good question and

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he said baby steps.

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There are baby steps because there are certain things that we

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can do such as number one starting to take care of our

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body. I know this is gonna sound so simple, but please hear me

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out with this one. Remove alcohol.

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It takes you into a huge depression and whatever you're

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going through, it's just gonna make it worse. We do not need

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alcohol in our life. I was I'm three years sober now I'm proud

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to be sober. It really created some havoc in my life and that's

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my first recommendation. Second is actually reduced caffeine

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also

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To decrease anxiety.

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So please watch your caffeine consumption.

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Third will also come with marijuana, I know I'm talking

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about things that take you out of your mindset that will take

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you out of your awareness of who you are. So be very conscious

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about things you consume.

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For checking your body, even or not, meditation is very, very

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important. Just sit for a few minutes, sit by a tree, sit in a

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comfortable place, sit with your thoughts, it's not about losing

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all your thoughts. It's just becoming aware, aware of your

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body. And

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one more thing I would have to say is seek good, healthy,

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masculine relationships.

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friendships that support you that will challenge you to grow,

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you know who they are, the things that I spoke about, that

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you should cut out or reduce, they're going to be the men's

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who are already doing so they're not going to go ahead and lead

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you in a direction where you're going to be consuming something

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that is going to take you out of your mind out of your body. So

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find those men.

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I will also say there's an expression, do not throw the

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baby out with the bathwater. Yeah.

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If you enjoy lifting weights and martial arts, running, or you

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enjoy just looking physically fit, please do so we need to

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train our body and take care of so that helps release the

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aggression and tension. And it is absolutely necessary to do

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so. Right. So if you are backing away, because you're afraid that

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you're going to lose control, you're not losing control, just

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make a conscious decision that you're doing something because

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you're enjoying it. But you don't have to go into the

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violence of it. Look at the Shaolin monks, they are only

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doing so so they could exercise their body and protect their

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temples, just in case there was an attack. They're the most

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peaceful monks that are out there, but they are experts,

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martial artists. So there are so many things. And I guess the

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other question was, how do you find them in circle?

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Where r is in North America, right? So meetup will have many

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circles, right? Go go and find

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in your local meditation, crystal shop, something a little

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bit even library, they most likely will have a men circle.

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All right.

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I think there are larger men's circles, which I'm not part of,

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but mankind project is one that is popping up in my head.

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What is the secret? Brotherhood?

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Secret sons? Yeah, is another one. That's a big, big men

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circle. Yeah. But I'm also gonna give you an invitation to reach

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out to me. Yeah, you know, I really love that and see if I

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can go ahead and get you connected with somebody who is

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local in your area, I have started to connect with many men

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from all over the world right now, all over the world. And

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they have men circle that are in person and virtual, and many of

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them are also free. So you know, do not hesitate to reach out to

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them. And a lot of the circles offer scholarships and help and

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these are brothers that are trying to help and if you're

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alone and you need somebody, we can we can help we can

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absolutely help.

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This is so beautiful. And yeah, what comes to mind when you talk

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about the exercising is to have the right intention. Right not

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do it for the wrong reason. And if you have the right intention,

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if it is self care, then it is the right way and with

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everything it is with food with alcohol, we said we cut out but

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also relating to women. Yeah. Do you just want to you know,

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dominate someone and oppress someone? Or do you want to make

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a connection between you and a woman and vice versa? Like

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intention is a big thing.

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A big takeaway from from this compensation with you here and

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for women who listen, to also know that we can support our men

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and encourage them not not, you know, tell him or join this man

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circle. But when we sense that there's a tendency towards this

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healing and reclaiming masculinity that we trust and

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that we encourage it when the man wants to take self care and

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it is not alcohol abuse. It is not like gambling or anything

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but

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If it's the intention to take care of themselves, that we give

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him that space to give space for the man to heal, and to trust

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that it's going to serve the whole community, if not more

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people around, I feel that's very important to say too,

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because women are sometimes Yeah, more inclined to have self

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care time. And when it comes to men, we always expect a lot and

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demand and when they are laying on the couch and reading we nag.

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But to allow that space and to know that men need that just as

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much as we need.

Unknown: 00:30:44

Kaeleen thank you so much for being here. And for sharing your

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story with us and your wisdom, around reclaiming masculinity,

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you are deeply appreciated. And yeah, I'm so happy to be

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connected. And to be publishing this show here soon. Thank you

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so much. This is such a pleasure, thank you.

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Funny story here. As soon as we hung up,

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we started talking and came up with more stuff we wanted to

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talk about on the show. So we just extended here's part two of

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the interview. Right? So you know, when you brought up the me

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to movement, that was a that really create a tension between

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the masculine and feminine. The teacher that I was with, and

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what's what I've been in say was that I had been training in

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spiritual studies for

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who years now. Now, I'm the sort of at the age of 30. And now I'm

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37 years of age, I'm still learning different modalities.

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And I did take on a teacher, and I'm so grateful that he came

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into my life. But there comes a time when you learn about

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yourself, and you have to venture off especially if the

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teacher is not clicking things in in will stop clicking with my

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teacher.

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The reason why I'm saying is because he was very angry about

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the meaty movement. You know, we said we it was polarizing. When

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that happened, a lot of women were angry, and they were

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speaking up because a lot of violence was done against them.

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But many men were like, now we can't be even men anymore. You

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know, what is this? Every they're always unfair. The fact

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the matter is that if you're acting from kindness and

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consent, and you're, you're operating in a way that you're

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supposed to operate, nobody's ever gonna go ahead and blame

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you for doing anything. So wasn't that an opportunity to

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learn and be like, How can I be better?

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It was, it was an opportunity for dialogue with the men and

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women. How can we conduct ourselves with each other? What

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is it that you need? Where is it the fault lies? Many, many,

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many, many men make mistakes, especially when they're under

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the influence of alcohol? I bet you a lot of the these

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violations occurred under influence of alcohol, well,

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maybe that's a problem right there. You know, just because

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you're drunk, that doesn't mean it is okay. So just you know,

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you need to still control your behavior, you cannot just touch

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somebody without their consent. And there could have been more

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dialogue, they could, you know, with the older generation,

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the older generation and the younger generation, because this

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is an opportunity for me to teach the next people to the

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next, you know, the children who are growing right now. And I

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just think that we really, really need to reinvestigate

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what has happened, and come together and figure out how

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we're going to move forward. Yes, yeah. No, this is a very,

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very important addition. And I'm so happy that you asked for an

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extension here.

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Because I feel the man who got really upset, like really angry

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are the ones that kind of were on a wrong path. And this is

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like, we're talking about violence, about rape. And you

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say, Oh, now I can't be a man anymore. Yeah, so that means

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that behavior was okay for you. That's actually what you're

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saying. That's the translation that I'm getting here. And it is

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exactly the men that needed to hear and see what is happening

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when you behave off trail right.

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And I really love that you brought that up because what

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I've experienced is that a lot of men

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started becoming

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more aware and started asking these questions, hey, what do

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men women really want? And how can we connect better?

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And a lot of men were confused now. They didn't know. Okay, but

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how can I talk to a woman now and, and I don't want to scare

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her off, but I want to show her that I'm interested, I want to

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impress her. But how do I not come off? Like a total creep and

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a weirdo. And so there was so much going on. And what I, like

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observed to this day is that, especially in North America,

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when we talk about, let's say, catcalling, the women here are

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so easily offended and are so I don't care if I'm going to lose

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followers now. But as so

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aggressive towards playful,

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playful approach to connections, sensuality, intimacy, sexuality,

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and I'm still trying to make sense of this. Because in

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Europe, where I come from, from Germany from, from France,

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it is very different. Like, we're very touchy people, kissy

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people. And

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catcalling. Yeah, when you, when you take a little care of your

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body, it is the norm. It is on a daily, you know, and we find it

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funny, we find we appreciate it. Sometimes we say hey, like, eff

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off.

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But is it it is part of a culture. And here I feel there's

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so much aggression

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towards men. And I want to understand like, are North

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American men really such creepers? Are they such bad

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people that they deserve that kind of treatment? And did I

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miss read something?

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Or is it women that are being too extreme, and we have to dial

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down a little bit and relax a little more.

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If you want to add to this, please do if you don't, if you

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want to protect yourself?

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I hear you. And you know, I am of a different mindset regarding

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all these things. Because for me, we had talked about the

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warrior king energy. Yes, when a man is in his masculinity, the

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women come to him.

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So these things, and it might sound advanced or weird, but

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I've truly I'm telling you a true warrior. He is not

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aggressive, but he is strong. And women flocked to him.

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Because that's rare, is absolutely rare. So I don't care

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about catcalling and playfulness and such because if you're

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practicing your masculinity the proper way, you're getting

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everything that you want.

Unknown: 00:38:12

Alright, I get it. You know, my focus when I teach classes when

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I'm teaching my men, I don't even talk about the about women.

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I talk about me, as a man, what are you going to do? How are you

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going to improve yourself spiritually, physically,

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mentally? And as you do? So all those things just fall into

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place? It's a non issue. If you don't even think about it. It

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just happens. Yeah, yeah. That's what I

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I love that approach. Because I was focusing too much on the

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what I don't want and what I see that is not going well. And you

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pulled me out of this and show me Hey, you don't have to

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impress you don't have to put on a show. If you are and your

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true, you know, energy, if you are authentic, things are going

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to flow towards you. And you don't have to do this whole

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theater. And yeah, it's I don't know if you've ever been to

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Europe, but it's still very entertaining when you observe

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men and women there and lots of drama and, you know, lots of

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playfulness. And yeah, I was missing that a little bit when I

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moved to Canada initially. But, man, this was a beautiful

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addition. That was

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a big, big teaching for me as well. Is there anything you

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would like to add? Because now we got plenty of time. But if

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that's it, that's it. If there's something else

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it's time to come together. That has been my message. We need

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each other. We don't need this divide. The men are stepping up.

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They are doing the work. The women need to have trust that

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there

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doing the work? No, the feminine is in trauma right now. I am so

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sorry. I know I also don't represent every man. But as a

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man, I have seen what has happened. And even though I am

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not a violator, I feel it, I see it, I am observing it happening

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around me, I do not agree with it. And if it is going to happen

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around me, I'm going to do something about it as much as I

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can.

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There are many men like me, who feel the same way. And they will

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never never allow this abuse and violation ever. And they want

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all the feminine to just be joyful again, to not have to

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worry about these things. And we're coming to you with respect

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coming to you with partnership, and knowing that the masculine

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and feminine needs to come together and do the work. And

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that's it. Nobody is better than the other is equally as

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important.

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This was a beautiful closing to this episode. Thank you so much

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for raising the hand that you wanted to add something I'm so

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grateful for those additional 12 minutes here. I wish you a

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wonderful rest of your day. And yeah, we stay connected and I

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will make sure to have your contact in the show notes so

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that people can reach out to you. Thank you so much.