Ep. 16 Beating Pornaddiction with purpose interview w/ Louis Brantmeyer.

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Hello, hello, and welcome to the Borealis

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experience. I'm your host Aurora, and I'm very excited to

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have Louis Brandtmeyer with me again. Last time, we talked

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about the spiritual awakening and Louis journey on how to

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become an empowered person and inspiring others today. And

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today we want to talk about, yeah, how we can empower people,

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how we can inspire people, to be more, yeah, happier with

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themselves, and maybe liberated from addictions, and to then

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enter relationships, and have a fulfilled life. Together with

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others, Louis opened up to me a little bit and shared that he

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was addicted to porn for quite some time. And he was able to

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liberate himself from that addiction and to now live, free

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and passionate life where he's not restricted by porn anymore,

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because addictions, feel good in a moment. But when you look at

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it on a deeper level, it's always Yeah, keeping you in a

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specific mindset that doesn't help you open up in real life

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and be successful in real life. So let's just jump in Louis, and

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share with us how it all started. How did you become

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addicted? And how were you able to free yourself?

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Absolutely. So I'm happy to be here grateful to be here,

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excited to share. My story starts in approximately eighth

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grade. This was maybe 15 years ago, when I started to find

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myself desiring connection and contact with women. And this was

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the early days of dial up internet. So we didn't have

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multiple tabs or streaming like read to you porn or whatever.

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But we did have pictures, images, lots, lots of images.

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And before I knew it, surfing the internet late at night, I

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discovered lots of different images actually going back even

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further than that. My grandmother was an artist. And

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in her artists study, she had a book of nudes of have like the

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female body. So while it wasn't intrinsically pornographic, or

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even addictive, at that point, it opened me to that. And then

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on the cable box, this is really dating me because this is like

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early 2000s. Back when we used cable boxes, there were some

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channels that we got that we weren't supposed to get. And

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they'd come in through like psychedelic multicolor and

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they'd show up for a couple seconds, and then it would blip

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out. And then I'd have to switch to the next channel and switch

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back. And I saw people doing things that was that were very

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interesting to me. As an adolescent. I was like, What is

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this this is I'm feeling things in my body. And so I started to

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get turned on and before I knew it in my grandfather's bedroom

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upstairs in the large house, I had discovered porn with

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pornography, and it wasn't you really wasn't a thing at that

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point. And the dogma of Catholicism, which I grew up in,

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had me feel shame and guilt and go to Confession every Sunday

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and you know, share this sin quote, unquote. And so sexuality

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was being suppressed, repressed rejected, title, this perverted

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deviant. And so there was this mix between like a really

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authentic desire for touch and physical expression with the

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programming of religion and then also the programming of culture.

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Because porn is also programming. porn is built for

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people to be fulfilled porn is built for people to have orgasms

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and consume more pornography and buy more pornography is a

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product and nowhere in porn. Is there an expression? Well, okay,

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with the rare exception of some feminists and female gays

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inflected pornography, nowhere is porn, before the holistic

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health and well being of the individual zooming it, I look at

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it As fast food which if you eat enough fast food, you will die

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of heart disease, for example, the great metaphor because

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people are consuming porn instead of finding a way to

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fully embody their desire and express their desires in the

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world, so I didn't have a father at the time, who could teach or

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train or lead or guide me in any way in the direction of like a

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healthy expression in sexuality. And what I had was called the

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same culture that tells women to be as Virgil and pure as the

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Madonna but as, as open and slutty as a whore. Like the same

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culture that makes both things look good and leave leaves women

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confused and tells me, then you need to be studs, you need to be

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having lots of sex with lots of people, you need to figure it

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out, you need to be good at it, and you need to impress your

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woman and all this shit. So porn was my only sexual expression

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for three or four years, through high school. I barely went out

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on dates barely made out with women. And I was in an all boys

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Catholic High School. So I didn't really receive any sort

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of sexual education. Other than abstinence is best. If you do

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have sex, you're going to hell, if you masturbate or have sex of

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any kind, you need to confess it as soon as possible, so you

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don't burn forever. And

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I, I was hardcore Catholic, like I was serious about it. I loved

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the religion, and I loved serving it. And I and I was

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obsessed with perfection. I was obsessed with being not sinful,

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not a sinner. And then I became an atheist. And as an atheist,

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it was like, oh, wow, all of this stuff that I thought was

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bad. Now I can do it. Live, cheat and steal. Because you

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know, at all, all the ethics are made up. And I still believe

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this on some level that all ethics are made up. It's just

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that for me, living from love, feels better, works better,

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leaves a better trail, and a better impact on the people I

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interact with, helps me to build my business, my life. Yeah, so

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just fits and works better. And I think innately we humans have

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empathy and compassion is part of our genes as part of our

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brains. So we can either embrace it or try to deny it and suffer

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from the consequences. So I embrace it, I recommend everyone

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else embrace it as well. In fact, self compassion and self

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love, self soothing through self pleasure is not wrong. And porn

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use is not wrong. porn addiction is not wrong. People who are

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addicted to porn, meaning using it more than they want using it,

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instead of creating a sexual partner using it in a way that

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is negatively impacting their life or their business of their

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purpose, their career, and I've experienced all forms of those,

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you know, those people are not wrong. Imagine if we grew up in

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a world where everybody was smoking, and smoking was just

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normal. And nobody had ever done any studies on the impact of

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smoking. And people were dying of lung cancer, it was just

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like, this is the thing that happens. Or people were, you

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know, getting X, Y and Z illnesses, like it would just be

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a commonly accepted fact. So Gary Wilson, and a TED talk

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called the Great porn experiment talks about this, how there's an

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epidemic of mostly men who are dealing with ADD social anxiety,

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an inability to focus all kinds of different symptoms that are

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being diagnosed as separate problems. When we look at it.

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And we look at hardcore, multiple tabs, streaming

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pornography, we can see that so much of those symptoms of those

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those problems really could be viewed as symptoms of an under

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diagnosed condition, which is just the general use of porn.

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People don't even have to be addicts to be impacted

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negatively by porn, as it exists currently, are brave enough.

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They were designed by evolution, nature, whatever is, you know,

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if a man sees a woman, an attractive woman, he gets a

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spurt of dopamine. In fact, in the occipital lobe of his brain,

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the visual cortex, he ranks her as hot or not, subconsciously,

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before his conscious brain before his ethical brain has

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anything to do or say about it. So like, by the way, y'all if

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you're in a relationship, and your man notices another woman,

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that's because it's programming. It's not his fault. He's not a

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cheater, he's not wrong. And porn, the way that it works is

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where at whereas in the evolutionary theater 100,000

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years ago, We would see a woman once in a month or something,

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maybe as men, and we'd be like, Oh, my God, and we get this huge

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release of dopamine, like, I've got to pay attention to her,

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I've got to engage with her. Because if I don't, I won't find

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a mate and the species will die. This is this is our gene pushing

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us, right, our evolutionary programming pushing us. But when

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you put a lot of attractive women naked, on a screen,

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engaged in sexual behavior, there is a dopamine overload. So

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it becomes an avalanche for the male brain becomes overwhelming,

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it becomes impossible to resist at a certain level. Now, I also

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have a personal belief spiritually, that those who are

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producing pornography, possibly through no fault of their own,

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being part of a much larger system are fostering and

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encouraging people to exist at the level of component.

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Bullshit, which is a very low energy. It's a very like, you

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can feel the difference between feeling playful and feeling

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excited and curious and joyful, versus feeling like you need

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something, there's a tightness, there's a constriction, there's

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a contraction. And

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so the idea is that there are literally negative energy beings

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that latch on to the souls and energy bodies that people who

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use porn. And this explains so much of my experience with

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addiction, and use of porn, because sometimes I would use

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porn. And I'd be like, Alright, I'm done. I'm gonna go

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concentrate on something else. And I feel an uncontrollable

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need and desire and a distracted attention focused on getting my

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next tip. Yeah, and I promise and I pray and I push. And then

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within 30 minutes, or 40 minutes, I find myself in front

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of the screen, and I feel like crap. And the the reaction, the

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self judgment of guilt and shame over not being able to control

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myself, would add to that snowball that spiral of that

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already constricted feeling in my body. Yeah, yeah. And

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sometimes it literally felt like my personality was being taken

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over by something else. And so I understand if somebody wanted to

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make the argument that demons were involved. Yeah, I don't

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actually contend against that. And I literally would walk

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around heavy in my body for days, two weeks after, unless I

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got energy work done. Hmm. So people are carrying stuff

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around. People potentially are carrying beings around, that are

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feeding off of their energy and pulling them into behaviors that

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are disempowering and detrimental to them. That's one

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view. Right? Nobody has to buy the spiritual view. It's just a

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great explanation for what I've experienced. Go ahead.

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Now, I totally understand what you mean. It's like a total

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vicious cycle that people are caught up in? How can you step

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out of it? Is it with very like baby steps? Or do you have to? I

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mean, I guess every person is different. You can go cold

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turkey with one person and not with the other. But how was it

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for you? How did you get out of it is the awareness that you had

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that it made you feel? Good, but it made you feel very bad and

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kept like made you feel captured? At the same time? How

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did you move out of this, this negative, vicious cycle?

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Excellent question. So I failed a lot. Mm hmm. I would take 90

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days off of hardcore porn and outsource the control of my

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phone and the management of parental controls on my computer

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and my phone to do friends of mine. And then I would go for 90

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days without orgasm without sex without relationship. And yet, I

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would still be looking at softcore porn, which kept those

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neural pathways alive and then when I started having sex again,

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everything would break down and I would get cravings and I would

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get overcome and I would just return to the same like a dog to

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its vomit as the New Testament says. And I tried tapping the

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Emotional Freedom Technique. I tried hypnosis. I spent really

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good money. I tried Mastery Systems and landmark and

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accountability partners and I even looked into sex and love

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Addicts Anonymous. None of it work. Not they helped ultimately

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to resolve the problem perfectly. Suddenly, all of it

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helped me cope in the moment and gave me a good feeling for a

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certain period of time, really. The solution for me, and this

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only came very recently is a combination of three things.

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purpose, connection, and cleverness with technology.

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Yeah, so I can say that most people who are dulling their

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edge, or numbing out using porn, and drinking and drugs, and TV

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and Netflix and all kinds of things, because we're here to

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live a purpose, we're here to make a difference. We're here to

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give our gifts, we're here to create something in the world.

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If we see that something is missing in the world, we're

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meant to either become it or bring it. And, you know, it's

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about distinguishing that for yourself, clarifying and

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aligning with something that makes use of you to where you're

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a force of nature, you are, you are impacting the world. For me,

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it grew is this little five years ago, as well, I think my

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purpose is to give my unique and creative gifts and talents and

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service to others. I don't know what those are yet, but I'll

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figure that out. That was right before I started my coaching

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business. And then, during my coaching business, I eventually

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realized, well, one of my gifts is events, one of my gifts is

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conversations and workshops, I'm just going to keep doing this,

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but here's the thing, every month I would get I would get to

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a plateau of purposiveness, I would get really excited three

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or four days before the event, I get super focused I I clean up,

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I turn off all the porn and I you know, make sure that I take

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lots of cold showers to rebuild my testosterone and my energy

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and my focus. So I'd be available for my people, my 20

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to 50 people I'd fill the events with. And then afterwards, I

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would either have sex with my girlfriend, and then the porn

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would get retriggered or I would go for a week, floating in this

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plateau of energy, of enthusiasm and charisma and joy and

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creativity. And then eventually I would self sabotage. And I

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would hit up the porn again. And this cycle happened over and

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over and over again. So that purpose though, was my anchor,

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it was pulling me out, kept pulling me out over and over.

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But yet, I noticed the impact of my relationships. It made me

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less connected it made me feel numb in my body, it made me less

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able to concentrate less fluid and fluid and capable and clever

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with my words, and and creative an expression. It left a less

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available for tuning into my intuition get literally left me

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making less money than I would make when I wasn't choosing both

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to use foreign or to have lots of sex. So the energy of

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prosperity, the energy of purpose, the energy of

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abundance, and the energy of sexual connection are all one in

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the same in the body. They're all related to this

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artist I have a supply of energy and we have the ability to use

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it for what we're here for or we can squander inch, throw it and

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cast it to the four winds through sex and, and random

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activities that are not aligned with us. We align with the will.

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When we align with our purpose, when we surrender into what

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we're meant to do on this planet, prosperity follows. And,

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and the fulfillment also follows. fulfillment comes from

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us doing our purpose, not from trying to get happy not from

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trying to get a relationship not from trying to get sex. So all

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of those fall into place. Once we're living our purpose first.

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Now, strategically, you may be clear on what your purpose is,

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you may be focused on living your purpose and I was for years

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and yet I would still use porn on occasion. And I would notice

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the drop in my energy the numbing in my body, the

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constriction. Eventually I came to the point where I no longer

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judged myself for it. And that's one layer to remove all the

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judgment, all the shame, the blame the guilt, the like I'm

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wrong for this, there's something wrong with me just let

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go of all those stories. And that then you can be because at

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that point, you're like, Alright, I've got something more

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important that I'm moving towards that will keep me on

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course, that will pull me through whatever zigzags it

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takes to get this behavior change. And then, you know,

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number two, connection and cleverness with technology.

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Right So, the antidote to all addiction is connection. And for

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me living my purpose means connecting with people in

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service of them, or in potential service of them showing up for

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delivering podcasts or workshops or public speaking engagements.

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I did a workshop called becoming conscious with polyamory just a

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couple days ago, and it lit me up. And I was massively in

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service. And I felt aligned with my purpose. I got another one

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coming up in Austin called becoming pornography. Because

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this is a common topic, a lot of people are dealing with this

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right. And yet, if you're suffering in silence, your your

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mind your brain, neighborhood, and there are neural pathways

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that you built, you become unconsciously competent. As an

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on autopilot, it's easy for you to float and drift back down to

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using things and doing things that don't work for you that are

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unhealthy for you. If someone like speaking to someone who's

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an addict, right. But what it takes, You're the son, you're

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the average of the five people you spend the most time around.

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So I started to spend more and more time once I knew my purpose

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around people who are also living their purpose around

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people who are as committed or more committed than I was to

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their purpose expressed as prosperity. And those people

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didn't have these problems, those people had their attention

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on other things. So as I started to get into connection,

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community and conversation with these people, I started to focus

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my attention to my energy, my energy on those other things, I

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started to become more like those people. And you know,

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finding people who don't have problems with porn, who are

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living their purpose that can only help you and being in

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communication, when you slip up. And you're in a space of self

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judgment. And you want somebody like on a previous podcast, to

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just sit with you and listen to you like letting go or clearing.

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And I recommend the previous podcast for details on how to do

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that with your a team and all of that. But really, I kept using

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porn, up until a couple months ago, actually, I would use it

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once every month or something, and I would always feel the

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difference. And I'd always have to go get an energy clearing.

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And I'd have to rebuild my testosterone using SAP

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supplements. And I could tell that I wasn't fully present or

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available for my clients, I could see a drop in my income

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being a solopreneur. If it has, if it is to be it depends on me

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that I'm going to just show up from me sitting on my ass and

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not taking action. And especially if I'm not taking

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action from an energetic receptive inflow space and state

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porn is really great completely just destroying dismantling a

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disfiguring any good steak and somebody feeling it like whether

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through pulling sexual energy out, or, you know, just leaving

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somebody in a whirling spiral of guilt and shame. So, you know,

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there were a couple things that I did during this period of

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intermittent use. And I'm about to give you the last piece, the

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last piece is the most critical piece of what's put put it over

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the top. But before I get there, you know, as men speaking to

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because most is mostly men who have porn addictions. I've heard

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of women as well.

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Speaking as men, our purpose and our drive and our focus and our

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ability to engage powerfully with real women, in sex and in

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romance and in relationships depends on us cultivating such

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orgasms to porn. It's not available for any of those

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things. And we become diminished, we become less

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available for our life, for the vitality and the vibrancy of our

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life. There's a numbing out to everything that happens for

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someone who uses porn at all, to any extent. And there are lots

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of men suffering in silence, assuming that it's normal, using

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and overusing even to the level of six and seven figures, CEOs

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of large companies, who could be massively successful, but still

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feeling misaligned. And we wonder what percent of marriages

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end in divorce? Well, men are over and over activating their

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dopamine reward system that encourages them to seek new

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partners is biology trained us rather than their oxytocin

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orgasm reward system through Taoist and Tantra sex sexual

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practices with their primary or their perfect partner going

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deeper and deeper in intimacy and connection with that person?

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Right so porn has definitely contributed to infidelity has

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definitely contributed to relationship dissatisfaction is

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definitely contributing to divorce and the epidemic of

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destroyed relationships and careers. So in that time, how

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would I build myself back up into purpose meditation, I take

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up maka ash wood garden And gokshura, which are Ayurvedic

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herbs that you can get from different botanical companies, I

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might recommend I have videos on creating aphrodisiac smoothies

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that are also great for replenishing gene which is the

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energy of purpose and the energy of action in men. So like, you

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don't have to sit in silence and suffer, even if you're going to

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continue using, right even if it's a thing that you don't feel

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100% confident and comfortable with saying, All right, I'm done

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with it. Because I did that so many times, I gave my word and

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then I failed. And then I felt shitty. And then I felt

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shameful. And then it made me use more. I don't want that what

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steps for every level of the journey. The last piece is

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obviously cleverness. One of my meditation teachers, he said, If

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you can't be disciplined, be clever. So his his story about

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this, as he says, Well, you know, I really wanted to go

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ahead and do a long meditative journey like six or seven days.

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It's called a session. It's like Samurai boot camp. He calls it

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in Zen Buddhist monasteries over there in either China or Japan,

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some Southeast Asia or something. And he says, well,

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the way that I did this was I got myself from a rude being in

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Southeast Asia. And the only place I had to live within the

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monastery. So I knew that I wasn't disciplined enough to

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take that that amount of time on my own and focus and do a

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meditation retreat. But if it was my only option, then then

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that made it easy. So you want to be firing on all cylinders,

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you want all hands on deck, you want everything in service, and

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supporting you to get things done. So in my case, I

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discovered a couple things, I discovered an app called habit

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share. And this was through my digital habits coach, by the

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way, I had almost completed the work when I met my digital

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habits coach, I had gone for long periods without using porn

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before, but not to the point where I felt absolutely

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grounded, comfortable, clear and confident that, hey, this is

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done, this is over, this is not a problem anymore. Like it's not

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going to happen again, there's no chance. So this app called

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habit share is basically something that you declare what

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you're going to do, and then you're accountable to a partner.

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And every day you click the little

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check mark, if you did the thing, or the x, if you didn't,

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or if you're like, in some days, you you choose to do other

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things or whatever, you can leave it blank, and then your

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partner will notice. So you're holding yourself accountable to

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doing or not doing the new behavior. Number one, number

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two, there's an app called free. Freedom do. What freedom does is

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it manages when, and if you have access to certain websites, to

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certain activities. And you can basically create what's called a

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session that regulates on your computer blocking all porn

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sites. And then you start it and you set it to repeat every day

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to start at 1201 because Originally, it was a

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productivity app. Originally, it was like, I don't want to be

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distracted by certain websites for a certain amount of time.

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Then you schedule that time and it starts and then it stops and

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you're like, Alright, I can go back to my aimless, mindless,

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purposeless scrolling on Facebook, and Instagram, which

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cancel clear, I don't do that anymore. I used to and I know

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what that's like. But the way to use the app freedom net to is

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just schedule it to where it starts the session blocking

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those sites at 12:01am. At 11:59pm, so it's all day. Unless

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for some reason you are really on a self sabotage, tear, and

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you really don't know your purpose. And you really aren't

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surrounded by a community of people who can help you. And

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you're like, Oh, I can't wait till 12 o'clock in those 60

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seconds. I'm gonna fuck this up and change things so that I can

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get get around the system I created. Like, I mean, here's

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what Claire don't do that. Obviously, that would be silly.

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Oh, and then there were a couple self orientations that I took on

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that helped me to recover and to manage whenever I had the urge

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or the desire. So freedom that to works really well. Habit

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share has worked really well. But there were a couple points

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of orientation. So like, whenever I was feeling bored,

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lonely, anxious, stressed or tired. Blast isn't bored,

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lonely, anxious, stressed or tired, I would take note. And I

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would take notice. And I would immediately say, Oh wait, I'm in

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a low willpower state. I am distractible, I may do something

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that I'm not looking forward to doing. I need to take extra care

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to manage my behavior and to put resources in place. One of which

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is, by the way, in. In the love languages, they talk about a

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love tech, where if your partner's Love Languages touch

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your you can choose to always be filling that love tank by giving

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them more and more touch. And if your tank is quality time, well,

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then they're more encouraged to want to fill your tank as well.

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But we get to do this for ourselves. There are self

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soothing and self loving behaviors, if you fill your day

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with behaviors that are aligned with your purpose that you love

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to do for themselves. For me, it's reading

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and other habits that allow you to feel good in your life about

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what you're up to where you don't need to seek compulsively

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hits of dopamine through outside stimulation, then, porn won't

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really be a problem. Of course, one of these habits of self love

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is going to bed on time. between nine and 10pm is when our

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nervous system most of us depending on your chronotype,

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which is something you can look up and take a test to figure

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out. Depending on your your nervous system, generally people

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get the best rest, if they're asleep by 10 o'clock, and waking

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up before 7am. This is just looking at neuroscience. And I

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can speak a lot from personal experience. So like if you're

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staying up late, if you're drinking, if you're doing

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alcohol or drugs of any kind, you are literally setting

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yourself up for failure and self sabotage. If you are hanging out

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with people who use pornography, you're setting yourself up for

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self sabotage, you're set if you're hanging out with people

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who casually like say, oh, porn is just a thing. It's not a

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problem. And maybe it's for them. But it is a problem for

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you. So hanging around with somebody who can, who has it in

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in their life can be a trigger, cognitively into rethinking

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like, oh, maybe I can use it. And then you creep back into Oh,

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shit. Now I'm compulsively using six times a day or something. So

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notice the conditions in your life and which ones are

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productive of you being a user and which ones are not set up,

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set the game so that you can win, create a game that you can

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win, get enlist the help of your technology, through habit, share

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and freedom to notice when you're on blast when you're

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bored, lonely, anxious, stressed and tired. and manage that

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manage yourself with extra care. Fill up your own love tank by

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doing things that you absolutely love, so that you're distracted

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by stuff that's that's actually enhancing and uplifting you and

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empower you in your life. And then finally, there's a little

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practice called urge surfing, urge Surfing is noticing when

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you have the urge to do something that you don't want to

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do. And we can build vigilance through neuroplasticity in our

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brains where we notice, hey, I'm having this desire to do this

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thing. Maybe I, you maybe I should take extra care in this

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moment, because the desire is here. Because anything and

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everything might queue and trigger those neural pathways of

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craving for porn. And, by the way, for a lot of men, the

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desire for craving for porn is is very much confused with the

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desire for craving for touch, or intimacy or sex or partnership.

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So having a coach working with a coach to release all of those

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things, to manage that subtlety and unlock all that intricacy so

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that you're fully able, like I did with a client a couple days

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ago, you're fully able to express without shame from your

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sexual desires, and your desire for connection short circuiting

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into porn because you feel like you can't get it out here in the

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world. And that's something that happens to men that's part of

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what retains their use of porn is they're just like, oh my god,

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I Well, I women treat me like shit and reject me and I believe

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I'm not beautiful because they've told me so I'm here in

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the world. So I need to use porn because otherwise I'm not going

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to get my quote unquote needs met. Right when it when really

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we don't have sexual needs as much as a need for the flow of

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sexual energy, which is the energy of purpose and abundance

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through us as gifts out into the world primarily and then into

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our partners and intimate relationships. Right. So anyway,

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getting back to Earth surfing, what I would do is Either I

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would add, you can choose something that's a lot of fun

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for you. For me, it was playing the song breezed by electro

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knowmia. I had it as a link on my Google Chrome. And anytime I

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got the urge in those first like, three or four days when I

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was working, anytime I got the urge, I would get up immediately

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go to my computer, hit the button to play the song and

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dance in my kitchen. So I was creating a new neural pathway.

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Yes. Whereas later there was a an autopilot response. Yeah, of

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like, oh, let's go look at some soft for pictures. Yeah. Oh,

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instead, I'm dancing in the kitchen. And And boy, I don't

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really want to use porn anymore. urge surfing can look like this,

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it can look like you just noticing that you have the

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desire and being with it.

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not reacting to it, not responding to it, noticing it

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like a bug bite or an edge on your skin. and choosing not to

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scratch. Super simple, we're able to do it with small things,

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we're able to deal with huge things like this. Yeah. So

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that's it, pretty much. That's how I, you know, conquered porn

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addiction. It took a lot, it took accountability. So hiring a

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coach, really, a digital habits coach finally was the one to tie

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it all together in a beautiful bow. And it took a lot of deep

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energetic work, healing traumas, from the pool of poison and pain

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called the past that people all carry around relating to sex and

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intimacy and my ability to be a user on on user porn, because

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limiting beliefs also impact all of this because you could do

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everything I just told you, but still have limiting beliefs and

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self sabotage patterns, which is why recommend coats and of

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course, I'm a coach, I help people with this. So if you're

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interested, Aurora will share information about me in the show

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notes. But yeah, was was that what you were looking for my

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friends.

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This was Beyond Good and informative. Like I feel I

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learned so much personally. And you can really apply your tools

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that you provided us on every addiction to help. Yeah, create

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new habits and get out of that vicious cycle. And sexual energy

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is just the most strongest feelings and energy that roams

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inside of us. And to suppress it, of course is going to create

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illness or weirdness in your head. And we just have to all

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learn to channel it into like you said, purpose and and

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something productive for society and for the people around us.

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And then for ourselves. And yeah, no, this was so awesome.

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Thank you so much for taking the time and for sharing all your

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secrets with us. I'm sure it will have a lot of people out

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there who are struggling at the moment. Thank you so much.

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You're so welcome. Thank you.

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Well, thank you so much for listening to this episode. We

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hope we brought you value and make you feel less alone with

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it. It is possible to get out of that vicious cycle and to enjoy

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intimate relationships again, on a deeper level. Thank you so

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much. And please don't forget to write me a review or rate my

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podcast on Apple podcast. When you scroll all the way down. You

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will see you can leave me a couple of stars here. Thank you